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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding Ticket on Highway at 5:00 in the morning
« on: December 19, 2025, 11:18:38 am »
Quote from: BertB on December 19, 2025, 10:16:50 am

Quote from: nivby on December 19, 2025, 10:03:26 am
I already have 6 points so accepting this will bring me to 9 - dangerous zone



When was the conviction date for the other points?

When the OP mentions "dangerous zone", I think he's referring to the fact that if he ends up with 9 points, he would be in danger of totting in future. I don't think he's referring to a DD40, DD60 or DD80 endorsement. So surely it would be the offence dates that matter, not the conviction dates.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: 47 in a 40 mph zone in South Wales
« on: May 22, 2025, 07:40:40 am »
You should be offered a course, as long as you haven't done one in the last 3 years.
It will cost around £100, but there won't be any penalty points.

There is no point in giving any context, as it won't make any difference to the outcome.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Speeding offence
« on: November 20, 2024, 04:38:07 am »
The request for driver identification should be answered within 28 days. Otherwise a more serious offence is committed.

The clocks went back to GMT on 27 Oct, so if the offence was committed "well before the clocked [sic] changed" you may have already missed the deadline.

If the time on the photos clarify that they are in GMT, then, IMO, it doesn't provide you with a defence, regardless of whether the offence was committed during BST or GMT.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: 31 in 20: NIP/172, driver confirmed, no comms for 5 months - SJPN now received!
« on: November 20, 2024, 04:13:33 am »
The Speed Awareness Course is now gone, unfortunately. That settlement is not available to the court.

The best option for your wife now would be to plead guilty and ask to be sentenced at the Fixed Penalty level, as a COFP was offered, but couldn't be accepted due to administrative reasons unrelated to the offence.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: SJP, and now Collection Order for failure to provide driver info - i never received any NiP!
« on: November 13, 2024, 08:19:40 am »
Your vehicle registration hasn't been redacted on the Statement of Facts.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP received following Police stop
« on: November 08, 2024, 11:10:19 am »
Quote from: swanny65 on November 08, 2024, 10:53:14 am
Got the NIP from my friend, although it does not say Notice of Intended Prosecution. It says Conditional Offer. Are they different.


Yes, a Notice of Intended Prosecution is different from a Conditional Offer of a Fixed Penalty.
This is why it's not a good idea to post on someone else's behalf.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Wrong body type on NIP
« on: November 07, 2024, 04:16:56 pm »
The cloning of vehicles isn't that common, but when it does occur, the 2 vehicles are usually the same make, model, body type, and colour.

Far more likely is either a plate misread, or a mistake on the NIP. Request the photos.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Wrong body type on NIP
« on: November 07, 2024, 03:38:15 pm »
Were you driving your car at the location and time stated on the NIP?
If you were, the chances of a clone of your car being at the same location, at the same time, are extremely remote.

Quote from: Hitz on November 07, 2024, 01:32:18 pm
Even if I receive photos of a saloon car with my registration I doubt I could identify the driver, as I assume that would be someone random.

Asking for photos to help identify the driver is just an excuse to get your hands on the photos. In your case you want them so you can identify whether it's your car, or not. Even if you were driving, it's unlikely that you would be identifiable in the photos.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Wrong body type on NIP
« on: November 07, 2024, 12:47:57 pm »
No. If it turns out to be your car, fill in the S.172 request confirming you were driving, and the process will continue as normal.

Be aware that requesting photos doesn't stop the 28 day clock to reply.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: Wrong body type on NIP
« on: November 07, 2024, 12:16:52 pm »
Ask for any photos to help you identify the driver. If they are provided, you'll be able to confirm whether it's your car, or not.

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Speeding and other criminal offences / Re: NIP returned by Post office
« on: September 25, 2024, 08:29:14 am »
Quote from: GCM on September 24, 2024, 11:00:06 pm
I did just that but sent an email instead with the form attached. I have received confirmation today that they have received the form and it has been actioned.

I would also physically send the signed form.

More knowledgeable members will correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think an emailed copy of the form would be admissible as evidence of you being the driver. 

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