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Got this in email, went to my junk mail though.


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Nobody pays a penny to UKPC if they follow the advice they receive here. Their Notice to Keeper (NtK) is not fully compliant with PoFA 2012 which means that as long as the driver is not identified, they cannot hold the Keeper liable.

Unlike in your narrative, where you have clearly intimated that you, the recipient of the NtK, were the driver. All you must ever do is, as the Keeper, refer to the driver in the third party. No "I did this or that", only "the driver did this or that". You may want toed your opening post!

Np initial appeal will ever be successful so we don't waste much time or effort on it. The aim is to get a POPLA code with the rejection, which is then valid for 33 days and make a more substantive appeal to them, for what it's worth.

Even if POPLA is unsuccessful, you do not pay. Their decision is not binding on you. It will go all the way to a county court claim which we provide the relevant template defence and in due course (9-12+ months) the claim is either struck out or discontinued.

For now, there is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Thanks b789,
i have logged an appeal as a registered keeper of the vehicle to UKPC online portal.

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Hi,

i got the NTK dated 21.11.25 posted on 24.11.25 While the driver was in Snowhill retail park Wakefield  " not parked correctly within the markings of the bay or space." in the pictures my rear tyres are on the boxes.

The driver went to do a return in one of the shops for hardly 10 min, parked in disabled bay with blue badge displayed on dash.

i have been given as the registered keeper 14 days from the date of issue of this parking charge to pay £ 60.


https://maps.app.goo.gl/BtJ3ZaethxL4itb66

https://maps.app.goo.gl/S7BZcKfZQPnr8huX6

The signage is not clear nor in picture or not on the paycharge portal.




Thanks

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The struck out claim order dated 27th October.
The postage stamp on the envelope is same.


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Yes will do.
Thanks

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Got the General form of Judgment or Order in post

IT IS ORDERRED THAT
1. Pursuant to CPR 3.4 the Claim is struck out.

2. As this order was made without a hearing any party may apply to set aside, vary or discharge it within seven days of being served with it.


shall i do anything ?

Thanks to all esp b789 for your help

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You are now waiting for the case to be transferred to your local county court and you will receive notice of that by post, followed by a 'directions' from a procedural judge with deadlines and any other orders that they deem necessary.
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Hi,
 
i have received on 20.10.25 a notice of transfer of proceeding to my local county court dated 2.10.25.

" The claim has been transferred to the county court ------------ for allocation. On receipt, the file will be referred to a procedural judge who will allocate the claim to track and give case management directions. Details of the judge's decision will be sent to you in a notice of allocation."

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Private parking tickets / Re: Letter before claim recieved
« on: October 02, 2025, 10:37:31 pm »
Thanks b789,
How should I send the reply

Recorded first class.
Or
Email

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Private parking tickets / Letter before claim recieved
« on: October 02, 2025, 02:13:35 pm »
Hello,
i have received a before claim letter from Gladstone Solicitors for £ 155 plus 35 court fee and 50 solicitor fee a total of £ 240 to be paid within 30 days of this letter which is dated 19th September 2025.
Some one from family might have parked the car there with a disabled badge visible on dash.
Should i ignore it or shall i need to reply to this.
Can someone please help me.
Thanks




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Now i have received the N 180 in my name with the same generic 8 pages to be returned by 6th October which i will plan to download from assets.publishing website and fill it in.

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Will they call again is it normal.
if i get i call i will ask them these questions.
Thanks

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Hi,

MR S called from a withheld number around 1330, small claims mediation team and did say that he works independently as a mediator.  It is not part of the judicial process and no judge is involved.

3 options
pay the full amount 255
or give a figure to pay.
or no settlement.
i did say that my offer is £0.

He did say that he will pass on the details and now its up to the courts/ judge to decide.

Sorry i did not see your advice as was not close to my pc to check before the call.

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DO you really want to only receive documents by post? That is. one of the easiest ways to receive a judgment in default because of delays or post that goes missing. Ideally, you want to receive everything by email.

If you want to prevent their emails going to spam, then whitelist their domain (moorsidelegal.co.uk).

You received a copy of the claimants N180 DQ and you have received your own. You have been given instructions above on how to complete your own N180 DQ. Just follow that.

As for the letter, just boilerplate stuff. The claim will soon be transferred to your local court and directions will be issued.

Before that, you will receive an appointment for a telephone mediation. This is not part of the judicial process and there is no judge involved. It is a waste of time but you have to go through the motions. The mediator is not legally trained and all you have to do is offer £0 and it will be over in minutes.

If the mediator tries to suggest that your defence is lacking or anything, you complain and tell them that the claimant has a copy of the defence and you stand by it and then tell us so that a formal complaint can be lodged.

hi b789,
i got a txt message yesterday from GOVUK

 small claims mediation service: Mediation Reminder: Claim number M1MP6F3K
23.9.25 between 13:30=16:30 Please refer to your email/letter with details you must read before the appointment.


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Just overlay a text box for D1 and set the font to Helvetica 9pt and it will fit.

The saved document is attached to an email and addressed to both the CNBC and the claimant (or their solicitor if they're using one. Also CC it to yourself as "proof of posting".

sent the email to all 3

 dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk

 info@ukcps.net

litigationteam@moorsidelegal.co.uk

and cc into myself

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