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There is a clear No Right Turn here, so I think you would struggle at London Tribunals, unless somebody can suggest a 'technical' appeal. These are based on council mismanagement of the enforcement process, and usually nothing to do with the alleged contravention.

Thanks! I sent a begging appeal, so we'll see.

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Is it your name and address on the PCN, or the hire company's ?
It's our name and address. They had originally written to the hire company. 
Any help appreciated today would be great!? Thanks

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The driver approached head-on. Here's the video:https://youtu.be/CjE_calJjhs

The video is set to private so we are unable to view.
Made it public now. Please check again.
Start of video shows car completing a turn. Please describe your route.
Oh yes, I can see what you mean. It was actually my wife driving that day. It appears she came up Chiswick Common Road and turned right into Fishers Lane. I’m not sure what signage was in place before making that turn, but she would not have seen the sign positioned at the entrance to Fishers Lane. 
By the way we have lease hire car.
The 28 day period ends on the 1st June, so hoping a good defence can be put forward.

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The driver approached head-on. Here's the video:https://youtu.be/CjE_calJjhs

The video is set to private so we are unable to view.
Made it public now. Please check again.

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You could post the video and check the tribunal register for any cases here. Did the driver apprach head-on or turn into the restriction.

The driver approached head-on. Here's the video:https://youtu.be/CjE_calJjhs

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A left turn would have meant driving along Chiswick Common Road. THere is a No Left Turn sign as one approaches the cross roads.  Did you not notice it ?

https://maps.app.goo.gl/gcavRc4wZoUQvkfLA

My wife was quite stressed when driving in the area trying to find the pitch.  Any feedback would be much appreciated as the 28 day deadline is fast approaching. Thanks

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Please repost the PCN with PCN number, date, and car reg visible. Your car reg is visible to all and sundry when you drive around. We can then go and look at their video.

Is this the location ?
https://maps.app.goo.gl/1hTnYNjeL5zcCUZi7
Please tell your approach, (left or right turn, or head-on)

Yes, a left turn was made down this road.

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Hi
The discount running out is just part of the process, if you go to adjudication the results is going to be (unless there are particularly unusual circumstances) either win and pay nothing or lose and pay the full rate.

Received a ticket in the same location. Curious to know how you got on?

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Thanks for the responses and sorry for the delay.
PCN: NJ43995170
Registration: LL24GYO
Date of notice: 05/05/2026

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Hi,

The hirer of the vehicle received this Penalty Charge Notice and was confused by the signage in the area. She was dropping her son off at a football match at the sports centre and did not see any clear signage indicating the restriction.

Please could you help with this matter? The 14-day reduced payment period ends on 19 May 2026.

Thank you.










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I left it as 'Please select an option' and I was able to proceed.

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No, the over-run is irrelevant and will only make them ignore the key PoFA point and answer this point instead.

Lastly (I'm on Gemini's appeal site now), what should I choose as the reason?


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Appeal along the lines of:

I am the hirer of the vehicle and, under no obligation to do so, will not be identifying the driver. Your PCN does not comply with the requirements of the Protection of Freedoms Act in order to transfer liability to me as hirer  (namely failure to include the required documents), and I am therefore unable to assist you further in this matter. I look forward to your confirmation the PCN has been cancelled.

Make sure you don't inadvertently click on a 'I was the driver' button.

They will probably reject it; and they are IAS for subsequent appeal so not that high a chance of success there either. So you would need to tough out the 'debt collector' letters and see if they make a small claims court case. This should be easily defendable on the above basis.

Thanks for this - should I not include the fact that the football tournament overran. If so, that doesn't implicate the driver at all, right?

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Hey all, it would be great to hear your thoughts.  I believe the 14-day discount period would end on 10th April and the 28 day period on the 24th April.
Thanks

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Did you receive any other documents with the PCN?
Please show us the back of the notice, and please confirm (in addition to the question above) if you are the hirer of the said vehicle.

Please see the back of the notice here.


I did not receive any other documentation and I am the hirer of the vehicle.

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