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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: March 26, 2025, 09:27:27 am »
Hi all,

The adjudicator has now come back to me confirming they have accepted my "out of time" appeal and a hearing has been scheduled for June 2025.

Can someone please advice what would be a good argument to present to the adjudicator for PCN - Contravention code: 23L?

Maybe @stamfordman if you have any further advice I would appreciated it.

Thank you in advance all

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath
« on: March 25, 2025, 11:40:46 am »
Quote from: stamfordman on March 23, 2025, 05:45:02 pm
Where there is permitted footway parking there's the usual possibility that footway parking ban has been disapplied by council resolution in the road.

Hi @stamfordman at the time I saw no parking restrictions on the street and nowhere near my car I saw a sign banning footway parking so it wasn't clear to me that this was not permitted as I saw other cars parked in the footway

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath
« on: March 25, 2025, 11:38:53 am »
Quote from: Incandescent on March 23, 2025, 05:42:44 pm
Looking around on GSV, (which is not anywhere near up-to-date), shows signs for part-off-carriageway parking with text below "in marked bays only". This is the sign, if you approach on Oreston Road: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/MSW4suRhczU9EHQq6
and this is the sign if you turn in from Upminster Road North: -
https://maps.app.goo.gl/61TH8jj3Fbv9FR8i8
You weren't in a marked bay from what I can see of your photos.  GSV does show some marked bays, but whether these are still visible, we can't tell from GSV.

You have a Notice to Owner. Did you not submit any informal reps to the PCN at all ?

If they don't re-offer the discount when rejecting formal reps it is then a total no-brainer to take them to London Tribunals.

Unfortunately I missed the deadline whilst traveling and dealing with some personal issues.

Can you think of a good argument to file my formal reps? Thank you in advance

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: March 23, 2025, 05:34:23 pm »
Not sure if its possible but I can provide evidence from Easyjet with the flight dates and times.

Can someone please help confirm what would be the best argument to appeal this PCN with the adjudcticator?

Thank you.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: March 23, 2025, 05:14:02 pm »
I was in Portugal (where I'm from) from 12th Feb to 20th Mar.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: March 23, 2025, 03:52:06 pm »
I returned home on the 20th and I have been catching up on all the post received since I got back.

I honestly did not expect the council to respond to my formal appeal so quickly (in the past I have seen this taking a month).

The date of Charge Certificate is the 19/03/2025 so I guess 28 deadline was the 19th.

The adjudicator may register a late appeal as is made clear the last para. of the NOR.

I have seen the paragraph you mentioned (Thank you). Guess the only option now is to make an appeal to the adjudicator and hope they accept the late appeal?

For the late appeal to be considered would I just appeal as I would normally would (using the code provided) and then provide an explanation for the late appeal or would the process be different?

Also for the adjudicator what would the best appeal be for this PCN?

Thanks

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Havering PCN - Code 622 - Parked with one or more wheels over footpath
« on: March 23, 2025, 03:39:46 pm »
Hi all,

Thank you in advance for any advice provide!

On the 9th February while taking my son to his Sunday league football match I received a PCN from Havering council with a  contravention code 622 Parked with one or more wheels on or over a footpath or any part of a road other than a carriageway (partly on footway) .

On the day in question when I arrived I found many cars parked with 2 wheels in the pavement and as I did not see any parking restrictions on the road I thought it wasn't going to be an issue (wrong I was).

GSV - https://maps.app.goo.gl/2jHqEEvoTrztqC2F8

Can someone please advice if:

1 - Is there any chance successfully appealing this PCN?
2 - Formally appeal and if offered the discount just pay it off?
3 - Take it as a lesson learned and just pay and move on?

Images:
PCN -> https://imgur.com/a/GueOu5D

NTO -> https://imgur.com/a/GRKNpRU

My pictures after seeing the pcn -> https://imgur.com/a/tWH7v9E

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: URGENT - Missed Appeal Deadline - NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: March 23, 2025, 02:36:58 pm »
Hi all,

Hope you all doing well!

Following my last post and formal appeal to the council I have now received both the Notice of Rejection and Charge Certificate.

Unfortunately since my last post I have been traveling and unable to read any letters received and as result I was unable to fill my representation with the adjudicator and as result the council is now demanding a full payment of £165 (£110 + £55).

I have now got less that 14 days to make payment before they apply for enforcement.

Can someone please advice:

1 - Do I have any chances of taking this back to the adjudicator or since the 28 days have now passed I'm no longer eligible?
2 - Just accept that I missed the deadline and just pay the £165

Images:
Notice of Rejection -> https://imgur.com/a/AtXPlvv

Charge Certificate -> https://imgur.com/a/G6WfeFQ

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: February 16, 2025, 08:49:43 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on February 16, 2025, 05:46:28 pm
Asking for discretion is open to any PCN and they must consider it but it's unlikely to succeed. They will probably reoffer the discount as otherwise you have nothing to lose by taking it to the tribunal which involves costs on their part.

These cases concern the PCN wording. The first shows they should have used the suffix 2 as I said.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1XqKhehvagEzi4MgvPQZEk65cZ2VuCDDg/view
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QtmX9lLTLTQx6uRa9NDzJvfXcJuhzylV/view

But:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1duurfYJ4orQSwrQhRNYL1wgYnXtEpheb/view

The order is probably in order:



Thank you again @stamfordman for your advice and sharing the other cases. I will submit an appeal as time is running out to see what they say and will provide an update once I hear back.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: February 16, 2025, 04:24:34 pm »
In terms of appeal options and seeing that my car was only observed by 1 minute by the officer would I only stopped for a few minutes be the right selection? This will probably still be rejected by at least I could see if they offer the discount again.



As always appreciate any advice.


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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: February 16, 2025, 03:58:00 pm »
Quote from: stamfordman on February 16, 2025, 03:56:25 pm
Goods vehicles are defined as vehicles constructed or adapted for carrying goods so you couldn't use this bay for loading.

The contravention doesn't say what class can use the bay and the suffix l just means loading place. Some appeals have been won on this but it's not a sure fire win.

We can also check Barking has a correct order for this bay.





Thank you @stamfordman for a quick reply. I have also just noticed that the location just mentions Heathway (Dagenham) but there isn't a specific location

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / NTO - Barking & Dagenham PCN - Contravention code: 23L
« on: February 16, 2025, 03:36:15 pm »
Hi fellow members,

I'm seeking advice on whether it's worth appealing a PCN that has now reached the Notice to Owner (NTO) stage.  I've been dealing with some medical issues, which unfortunately prevented me from addressing this PCN sooner.

Contravention code: 23L - Parked in a parking place or area not designated for that class of vehicle (loading place).

In December 2024, I stopped my car for less than 10 minutes (as recorded by my dashcam) to drop off a package at the post office. Upon returning, I found an enforcement officer issuing me a PCN. He stated the parking space was designated for loading only. I pointed out that other vehicles were parked similarly (see attached images), but he didn't offer an explanation and walked away.

In the original PCN one thing I noticed was that the officer observed my parked car for 1 minute before deciding to issue the PCN. Again the other cars in the same area didn't get a PCN (see pictures).

Given that the PCN is now at the NTO stage and the discount is no longer available, I'd appreciate any advice on the following:

- Do I have reasonable grounds to appeal this PCN? If so, what arguments should I use in my appeal?
- If my next appeal is rejected, should I take the case to the adjudicator?

Any insights or experiences you can share would be greatly appreciated.

Location google - https://maps.app.goo.gl/tcKdwhxYshgCaDJz8

Images:

1 - PCN and NTO letter - https://imgur.com/a/OJAnfSN
2 - My Pics - https://imgur.com/a/RUFkcDX

Kind regards,

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Wandsworth Council - Paid parking but PCN for parking in residents zone without valid permit
« on: July 30, 2024, 09:49:26 am »
After appealing to the Tribunal and while waiting for my hearing date in August I received a letter from the tribunal confirming my appeal has been granted as the council decided not to contest my appeal.

Funny that I provided the same evidence to the tribunal I initially gave to the council which they then rejected but guess this is how bullies operate to see how much they can get away with

Thanks you @cp8759 for all your help and advice in this matter.

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Wandsworth Council - Paid parking but PCN for parking in residents zone without valid permit
« on: June 28, 2024, 05:03:01 pm »
Thanks H C Andersen

I have only open the letter today as I was away from home (for work) for the past week so missed the 7 days deadline set in the letter. I have emailed her the links today and received an automated response saying someone would get back to me between 14-21 days.

Hopefully she will understand why I didn't email her in 7 days from the letter and reply in the next few days but from my side I can't afford to wait "14-21 days" to see if they consider the evidence emailed as it would mean I miss the adjudicator deadline.

If I don't get a reply from the council officer then I got nothing to lose by going to the adjudicator. I still don't think the contravention occur as in the day in question I paid for parking (like many times before), I have seen no resident bay (on the floor) and the pictures use as evidence by the council does not show any resident parking sign near my car.


(I have just noticed by looking at my evidence that the same council officer rejected both my informal (25/03/24) and formal (17/06/24) appeals)

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Civil penalty charge notices (Councils, TFL and so on) / Re: Wandsworth Council - Paid parking but PCN for parking in residents zone without valid permit
« on: June 28, 2024, 12:22:01 pm »
Quote from: John U.K. on June 28, 2024, 12:19:56 pm
Quote
NOTE: unable to upload more images so added the letter below:
https://imgur.com/a/s3hc2bz

Follow the instructions here
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

So:




Thank you John!

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