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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #15 on: »
OK - here's a redraft on that basis.  I disagree that

Hi guys just an update I have received the letter from Rddbridge Council as they rejected my representation please see the links for letter and and notice of appeal aswell. Can you please have a look and let me know what are the chances now. Thanks in Advance
@MrChips
@Stamfordman

https://ibb.co/chk8k6x
https://ibb.co/S3hSJyW
https://ibb.co/vHcDqZ8
https://ibb.co/NTCFzcz
https://ibb.co/RQLnxkY
https://ibb.co/sRdjtd3
https://ibb.co/cXm5jB0
« Last Edit: September 19, 2024, 01:29:09 pm by Sam6688 »

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #16 on: »
No access.
Put the images of the rejection on say Imgur or IBB.co and post the BBCode share links.

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #17 on: »
Clearly there was no contravention.

OP: did you screenshot the challenge page as there is a wording issue with it?
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #18 on: »
No access.
Put the images of the rejection on say Imgur or IBB.co and post the BBCode share links.


Hi Sorry I don't what is the issue why you guys can't see the images.

Here is links for IBB images


https://ibb.co/chk8k6x
https://ibb.co/S3hSJyW
https://ibb.co/vHcDqZ8
https://ibb.co/NTCFzcz
https://ibb.co/RQLnxkY
https://ibb.co/sRdjtd3
https://ibb.co/cXm5jB0

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #19 on: »
Clearly there was no contravention.

OP: did you screenshot the challenge page as there is a wording issue with it?

I did and pictures was attached at original post please find the links with letters regarding PCN and also the rejection letter for my representation thanks

https://ibb.co/chk8k6x
https://ibb.co/S3hSJyW
https://ibb.co/vHcDqZ8
https://ibb.co/NTCFzcz
https://ibb.co/RQLnxkY
https://ibb.co/sRdjtd3
https://ibb.co/cXm5jB0

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #20 on: »
They've ignored the challenge and the law - that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles.

No brainer to appeal this to the tribunal.


Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #21 on: »
I meant this:


If you would like me to represent you please drop me a PM.  They may well DNC of course as they are legislatively-challenged, if that is a phrase!

Our usual advice: personal hearing, I rely upon my formal representations and will file full submissions upon receipt of the council's evidence pack. Not a Thursday, preferably Mon to Wed.
« Last Edit: September 19, 2024, 01:42:36 pm by Hippocrates »
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
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Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #22 on: »
They've ignored the challenge and the law - that the vehicle has to stop within the box junction due to the presence of stationary vehicles.

No brainer to appeal this to the tribunal.



So according to their rejection statement you think we can win in tribunal?
Also I might need help with making representation in tribunal as I have never done it before and I live actually up north so can't physically come on hearing.whats the best advice you would give. Thanks

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #23 on: »
I meant this:


If you would like me to represent you please drop me a PM.  They may well DNC of course as they are legislatively-challenged, if that is a phrase!

Our usual advice: personal hearing, I rely upon my formal representations and will file full submissions upon receipt of the council's evidence pack. Not a Thursday, preferably Mon to Wed.

Thanks for your time and suggestions
Here is the pictures of my representation sent to council

https://ibb.co/9WSWJFC
https://ibb.co/27zLjsX
https://ibb.co/QHYX2z0

So if you can guide me with next steps and what are the chances at tribunal by independent Adjudicator like if we can win at tribunal stage. Also I live near Blackburn so it's not possible to attend physically at tribunal to defend. If you  an advice further regarding best option to consider will be much appreciated. Thanks

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #24 on: »
I always attend in person. You can attend by phone. They have failed to consider and misconstrued the law. I believe evreyone on here agrees to take it to the Tribunal.
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #25 on: »
I always attend in person. You can attend by phone. They have failed to consider and misconstrued the law. I believe evreyone on here agrees to take it to the Tribunal.

That's sounds reassuring that I stand a chance in tribunal. I have sent you DM @Hippocrates so if you can have a look  please that will be appreciated. Thanks

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #26 on: »
I have replied via PM.
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #27 on: »
I have replied via PM.

@Hippocrates
I have replied your DM please have a look and let me know if its OK to contact you and we can discuss it further. Thanks

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #28 on: »
Got it thanks. Game on. I will file the appeal for you.
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".

cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

To Socrates from "Hippocrates"

Re: Ilford lane redbridge Yellow box junction PCN
« Reply #29 on: »
Doubt they'll contest this when they look at the video properly.