Author Topic: Suffolk County Council, Stowmarket, Ipswich Street Code 83-Parked in a car park without displaying ticket or voucher  (Read 83 times)

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My Mum received a PCN today even though she had paid for parking using the app. She used the nearest location option on the app on her phone and paid the correct amount. However, she realised when she returned home that she had paid for the car park with the code 747206; the correct code for the car park she parked in is 747205.

On the map on the parking app it showed that she was in the other car park, not the one she was parked in so she didn't realise the car park was not the correct one.





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Sorry, but we do insist on a minimum of documentation to support a thread, one being the PCN. So please post up all sides of the PCN. Do not redact anything other than name and address.

Also please have a read here and update your thread if necessary:-
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

What is the PbP app your mother used ?

Your GSV link only shows one car park, so where is the other one ?

Sorry, but we do insist on a minimum of documentation to support a thread, one being the PCN. So please post up all sides of the PCN. Do not redact anything other than name and address.

Also please have a read here and update your thread if necessary:-
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

What is the PbP app your mother used ?

Your GSV link only shows one car park, so where is the other one ?

Hi, thanks for your reply. I did share the links to the photos of the PCN  using imgpile as per the instructions, but the links seem to have disappeared for some reason. I'll give it another try.

Hopefully this works this time. For some reason if I share using add image it doesn't work so I can only copy the links straight into here. The app was MiPermit

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Other car park

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« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:37:02 pm by joebassman »

« Last Edit: Yesterday at 10:37:33 pm by joebassman »

Please tell us where the other car park is in relation to the Ipswich Street one. The PbP apps use GSB_V to position the car in relation to car parks. We have seen them cause confusion where there are two numbers for a car park site  for some reason.

Please tell us where the other car park is in relation to the Ipswich Street one. The PbP apps use GSB_V to position the car in relation to car parks. We have seen them cause confusion where there are two numbers for a car park site  for some reason.

The other car park is in Union street about half a mile away.

Here is Google maps showing the 2 car parks

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OK. I have to say that that is a substantial distance apart, for a wrong selection. I don't know how the MiPermit app works, but reviews on Trustpilot are 90% unfavourable ! Here in Cheshire East council car parks, Ringo is the app.

All I can say is that you need to investigate how the app placed the phone at one car park when it was physically at another one. These apps use GSV to position the phone, then normally tell you the car park name and then one selects a car to park, as one can have more than one on the app.

I suggest you submit reps on the basis that the app placed the car at the wrong car park, but despite this, the correct payment was made so the council did not lose any money, and clearly there was no intention to avoid payment.

Thanks. What I'll try doing later is driving to the car park with my mum's phone to see if it does the same thing and then I can take a screen shot.

Or thinking about it what may be a better idea is if my mum's phone does it again in showing the wrong car park, is to hold her phone up against the board showing the code in the car park and taking a picture with my phone.

On GSV the car park board and instructions seem clear, as does the location number. Perhaps you could confirm with photos when you visit.

On the map on the parking app it showed that she was in the other car park, not the one she was parked in so she didn't realise the car park was not the correct one.

As I understand it, you were not in the vehicle and do not have first-hand knowledge, so this is your mother's recollection.

I'm no expert on these apps, but how could it locate her car without some user input? If she already had the app and was 'registered' or whatever, then presumably she has used this before. Any previous problems?


Just thinking ahead to the nest stage(a NTO), who is the registered keeper and are their DVLA details current?


Thanks for your reply. No I wasn't in the vehicle at the time.

In the app there is an option to select the nearest car park and that then shows the code of the nearest car park. My Mum used the app from her car and didn't look at the board.

Yes you have to register with the app and register your car and number plate.

My mum registered for the app this week to use this specific car park. She uses this car park for work as her workplace don't have their own car park and only downloaded the app and registered this week as she has just started her job. She said she's never used this app before this week.

My mum is the registered keeper and her details are up to date.
« Last Edit: Today at 10:04:25 am by joebassman »

Sorry, there is an error in my post earlier today. I said the parking app uses GSV to get a position, but I meant to say GPS (Global Positioning System).

IMO, given that the information board and instructions seem clear then any defence would go to mitigation. This would be bolstered if you could demonstrate that the app does not give this car park despite being parked in it then this would help because it suggests a systemic failure.