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 I had been parking like  once or twice a week for many months outside my Girlfriend's rented place. We had asked the landlord whom said visitors were allowed to park in the bays on the road outside the apartments (there is no signage for these bays , apart from a residents only sign)  A few weeks ago now I received a PCN form the council, saying "85 parked without a permit where required" see link
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cIlk2cvT-oYyZXuIwxM-ZjYHuD6ASrrw/view?usp=sharing

Here is a video showing the entrance of the road, there is simply a sign that says private parking only.
https://drive.google.com/drive/quota?q=after:2025-09-23

Here's a second video further illustrating the above
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EqxZ-AqB0bK4ZnKJDh4RwXS-XlH81Cw-/view?usp=sharing

Interestingly below there are 'Car Park' terms and conditions for an adjacent car park at the end of the road. Surely this does not dictate the terms for the bays at the entrance of the road ?
https://drive.google.com/drive/quota?q=after:2025-09-23


Can I appeal arguing that we were given verbal and text message permission to use the space and/ or should I appeal pointing out there is not sufficient signage in the bays mentioned

Hi Yes .
There is a sign but it is at the very very end around 50 meters of the road at the entrance of another car-park at an angle, which on the corner leading to a car park section  . Within that car park section there are signs mounted on the lamposts . You will see it on the video links





There is not however any signage around the white lines on the Telford court road before this car park section, neither is there anything mounted on the lamposts unlike the car park section mentioned above

Also as mentioned the landlord had told us in text message that we can use these bays ..

See the instructyions for posting images here:
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

especially the bit about using BBCodes:

3. Post the PCN and all subsequent notices or correspondence. The easiest way is to take pictures with your phone. There is no upload space on this site so you will have to upload to a picture hosting site (such as https://imgur.com or similar) and post links

You can use the "add image" icon to embed images in your post:

[img width=1100 height=88.9921875]https://i.imgur.com/SsopDuF.png[/img]

However if you are using imgur (our preferred option), once you've uploaded an image to the site you can use the share link option to copy the BB codes:

[img width=621.9921875 height=450]https://i.imgur.com/zSNsBUj.png[/img]

[img width=400 height=423.9921875]https://i.imgur.com/bsVQkU7.png[/img]

You can then paste that into your post and the image will be embedded into the post, just as all the images in this post have been. If copying the BB link from imgur you must not use the "add image" button, you just paste the link directly into your post.

So, for the link you posted:

Hi

See Schedule 3, Item 34 and page 62 which shows the location and limits of the car park..

This shows that there is a regulation order covering Telford Court Car Park. Whether the signage is adequate for these areas has yet to be established.

Cost of Residents Permit: £0 per annum
Cost of Residents Visitors Permit book: £15

She should get her free permit and/or buy a book.

Are you the registered keeper of the vehicle with current DVLA details?

I have parked there many times without issue . Ironically on this day parked I was actually helping to move my girlfriend from this property to another..

This is a rental vehicle from the company I work for .

Is this ticket worth the appeal or should I just pay it . Its already passed the reduced cost period

This is a rental vehicle from the company I work for .

Would you elaborate pl. Formal rental or ad hoc? Recognised hire company or what?

You should at least make informal reps.

Wasn't aware, parked many times before without issue, I apologise, ironically I was driving a van to help my girlfriend move out of no. *****, therefore this incident won't be repeated. Pl exercise your discretion.

Hi The van is a formal rental agreement possibly a lease through Arval . 
In the appeal should I just lean on the informal agreement from the landlord , or include the pictures and make a point of the lack of signage at the pays before the carpark ?

Thanks

The van is a formal rental agreement possibly a lease through Arval

In Parking World hiring agreement and lease are chalk and cheese.

A lease by whom, you or your employer? This is a complex area and precision is required.

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Hi Apologies, the van is a lease taken by my employer from Arval.. I have spoken to Arval about the PCN, they simply said to copy them in on the appeal .

Hope that clears it up

Thanks