Author Topic: Purley- TFL-PCN 46: Stopped where prohibited, O/S 9-11 Russell parade, Purley,  (Read 192 times)

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Received the PCN attached for stopping at a red route. The location mentioned is a EV charging point that is a 1 single bay). I pulled in to the bay for less than 45 seconds ( 3 pictures shared by TFL are within 35 seconds of each other)  to let a passenger out without realising this was a EV charging point only. I didn't notice the bay  turning in as It is  very much immediate as you make a turn, and  I need to focus on oncoming traffic from other direction. There is  very little time to notice given the tree trunk and foliage of the tree and traffic coming from other direction to merge. Better pictures from the TFL page attached. I moved immediately as I noticed the bay, but now realise that's not quick enough.
Thank you in advance fo any guidance.

Couple of questions,
1.  can I quote the tree trunk,  foliage obscuring the board and lack of clear view due to insufficient approach time?

2. Should this have been PCN code 14 and not 46? Is this an angle to challenge?
Appreciate any advise . If I'm at fault then I'm happy to swallow the pride and pay.

Link to PCN-

Picture from TFL-

Link to Maps- https://maps.app.goo.gl/sXES7xHzeppCguySA
« Last Edit: July 24, 2026, 08:02:30 pm by vjs »

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DId you actually let the passenger out ? If you didn't you could claim that you stopped with the intention to park, but read the sign and drove straight off.

Yes, it was less than 45 seconds and as soon as I stopped the passenger got off... they didn't really wait for my permission it anything. 

Well, sorry to say it, but I think you don't have a lot to go on if you want to stand your ground. TfL will refuse your reps, because they just want your money, there is no traffic management benefit in this PCN whatsoever, so to test the matter, you'd have to take them to London Tribunals with the full PCN penalty in play. Of course, if you win you pay nothing.

Understood. Would the PCN code actually be 46? I also realise they have 14 for specifically the EV charger parking.

Understood. Would the PCN code actually be 46? I also realise they have 14 for specifically the EV charger parking.
Well, it might be wrong, but as I said, you'll have to test that at London Tribunals. Would you win ? I'm not sure

Thank you. Is there an angle for appeal at all here? 80 pounds for a 30 second stop seems excessive. The charging point marking is also at a major merging point between 3 different roads, so one has to always watch the incoming traffic which makes it almost impossible for anyone to read a sign looking at the opposite side to the incoming traffic.
Appreciate if there are any other views here.

I suggest you get hold of the video recording from TfL, instructions in the PCN.

This would not only stop the enforcement clock, it would enable you and us to see the evidence which would form their case at adjudication.

Thank you. I will try to get hold of the Video.

Finally received the DVD and here's the video. Please suggest if I have any appeal angles from this.
Summary- 30-40 second stop, coming in with limited visibility of the board showing restriction. Joining road at a point of merge with busy traffic.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Kxc4g4e1Sneksz30dC-xDUxa7RzkhTyF/view?usp=drivesdk
 

You stopped and a person alighted.

The road marking is clear. It is also white which means that the exemption applies for the same period as the RR prohibition at that location. The preceding RR has DRL markings. The upright sign is placed behind you and IMO you would not have been able to read it without either reversing the car or getting out. You did neither.

On these facts I could not see an adjudicator finding other than you stopped for the purpose of letting someone alight which is not an exemption to the restriction.

Wait for other views.

What is the new latest date for submission of your reps





I believe it's 28 Aug-
On Hold: SUS54 - DTES Footage Request (28/08/2026). This is the latest status.

Any other thoughts on this? My only genuine argument is the angle of approach, presence of tree and foliage during approach and the busy merging traffic which means it's difficult to notice the sign at that point of entry into the street. If that's not good enough then I should probably pay up.
Would appreciate any reference for the appeal letter.

Hi Mods,
While looking at an angle to challeng, I noticed that the street name where contravention has occured seems wrong. pCN says  it's Purley road rather than Russell hill road which is the actual stree. Purley road that is mentioned here is an adjacent street as shown by the Google maps link here.
Is this a viable get away card?

What's mentioned in PCN is purley road

Actual street name is - Russell hill road

Contravention occurred here.

contravention location
Appreciate if someone could take a look as I'm running out of time to challenge.

It's worth putting in reps on the wrong location issue, but don't expect them to roll over and cancel; you'd have to take them to London Tribunals for an unbiased decision. GSV confirms you are correct on the street name.