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I was in Islington on Canonbury Lane and thought I had paid up until when free parking starts - past 1:30pm. I was then given a fine at 1:48pm stating I parked after the expiry of paid time (05).

I am not sure why I was given a fine but I assume it was a 'match day' however, I couldn't find any games on at the stadium. Are concerts including in this? Should a layperson know that a match day means concerts too and not just sporting events? Should the council not provide info on how to check for match days? Seems a bit too tricky for the average person to decipher.

Should I fight this? I am assuming many people have been through this already?









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Re: PCN - Islington parked over expiry of paid time (05) confusion
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This is a Penalty Charge Notice by the Council.

It needs to be moved in to the Civil (Council) notices.

This one is for Private Parking Notices.

I believe you can ask the Moderator to move it or re-post it there.
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I have asked for this to be moved
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Read through this case.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/islington-code-11-parked-without-payment-of-the-parking-charge-highbury-station-/msg118411/#msg118411

Did you do any checks when you parked, and what was your route to the parking place?

I think there was a pop concert that day so not a 'match'.
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Appeals at London Tribunals have been won on the council putting up signs with "match", whereas they should have used "event" to cover everything. I think many officials who order signs are "vocabulary challenged".
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Read through this case.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/islington-code-11-parked-without-payment-of-the-parking-charge-highbury-station-/msg118411/#msg118411

Did you do any checks when you parked, and what was your route to the parking place?

I think there was a pop concert that day so not a 'match'.

I came in from Upper St and checked only the sign above.

Yes I think it was a Boyzone concert and judging from the other post you mentioned, many people have challenged this and won. I can see the many cases cited.

I can also see from the other posts that other signs list the dates of 'match days' but this one did not.

The other complication is that the vehicle is in my husband's name, but I was the one who parked there. Does my husband need to challenge it or can I do it on his behalf?

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Anyone can make an initial challenge, but the next formal stage must be addressed by the registered keeper but that isn't a problem.

So you didn't answer:

Did you do any checks when you parked,


and:

I can also see from the other posts that other signs list the dates of 'match days' but this one did not.


This is about the controlled zone entry signs not the bay signs. Is this what you mean?

And no, there are no Boyzone signs although from reviews they would have well advised to be in a different time zone. 

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Anyone can make an initial challenge, but the next formal stage must be addressed by the registered keeper but that isn't a problem.

So you didn't answer:

Did you do any checks when you parked,


and:

I can also see from the other posts that other signs list the dates of 'match days' but this one did not.


This is about the controlled zone entry signs not the bay signs. Is this what you mean?

And no, there are no Boyzone signs although from reviews they would have well advised to be in a different time zone.

What do you mean by checks? What more are you meant to do besides checking the sign where you park? I took that picture of the sign directly above the car before I received the fine. I am not sure what further checks you need to do when you park? I did not see any controlled zone entry signs?


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Well, you parked, checked the sign - did you check if it was a match day? Your opening post is not clear.

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Well, you parked, checked the sign - did you check if it was a match day? Your opening post is not clear.

Yes I checked there were no games but there was a Boyzone concert on. I didn't realise that 'match days' extended to concerts.

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How and what did you check.

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« Reply #11 on: »
I checked the sign on the road near the vehicle. The same info on the photo I posted. The sign is the only thing I checked as well as seeing if there was a match on at the stadium via the website.
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The sign is the only thing I checked as well as seeing if there was a match on at the stadium via the website.

This doesn't make sense. You say the only thing you checked was the sign. But then you say as well as the website.

You checked the website at the roadside? And what website?

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OP, IMO the legal test is whether and how the CPZ entry signs you passed carried clear information that the 'next match day was 6 June'.

IMO, it does not lie with motorists to second-guess this information by researching alternative sources. If both signs refer to match days and the CPZ sign makes clear that 6 June was such a day then IMO you would struggle at adjudication.

But it's up to the council to prove its case and by the same standard i.e. to show(on the balance of probabilities) that the sign you passed conveyed matchday info clearly and was there to be read.

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Cases we have show that some adjudicators consider the word match is defective when there is no match.

I'd like to know if the OP checked for a match at the roadside as the website refers to Arsenal home matches at the start of the page.

Read this long thread.

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/islington-code-11-parked-without-payment-of-the-parking-charge-highbury-station-/msg118411/#msg118411

We also have a possible case that multiple events on the CPZ sign are not authorised.

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The Appellant's case is that it was not a match day as no football match was going on that day at the Emirates Stadium, there was a concert instead. He cited a number of other Adjudicators decisions in support of his argument. Other Adjudicators decisions are not binding on me, they are only persuasive.

However, in this case I find that I am in agreement with all the decisions the Appellant has cited. The first case was 2250451308, the second case 2250480306, the third 2250482414, then 2250512537 and finally 2250234820.

I agree with these decisions and I adopt their reasoning and findings as if they were my own.

I would add the following, whilst the signage has Secretary of State approval, I find that the signs appear to be in disrepair and the panels zig zag, which make it more difficult to read.

And further that the lower panel should only record the date of the next event and not the date of the next event and the event following that.

The appeal is allowed
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« Last Edit: June 08, 2026, 01:06:16 pm by stamfordman »