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I came off a small roundabout and when I saw the restriction sign it was too late to reverse back into the roundabout but a few metres after the restriction sign I did an immediate U turn to get out which would be shown on the video.

Can I argue that my incursion into the restricted zone was minimal and did not cause an obstruction?
Also can I argue that stopping and reversing would be a dangerous manouevre?
Thanks in advance for your help
BD

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« Last Edit: June 06, 2026, 06:55:13 pm by big_dragon »

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Re: PCN for Restricted road dulwich
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Welcome to FTLA!
We need to see more information!

For guidance on posting images please to have a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post here all sides of the PCN (only redact yr name & address from documents  - leave all else in),.
any council photos/video,

and a GSV link to the location.

Re: Southwark PCN Code 33e Restricted road use Dulwich (Now edited)
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Thanks for your help. I've edited the post now.

Re: Southwark PCN Code 33e Restricted road use Dulwich (Now edited)
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What road did you approach the Dulwich Bus Gate from? There is another live case on the forum for Dulwich bus gate (perhaps read that in meantime for strategy). Fortunately, there is a wording defect in the PCN paperwork that can be challenged.

Re: Southwark PCN Code 33e Restricted road use Dulwich (Now edited)
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Thanks Ryan, I came from College Road.
I looked at the other post and my PCN has the same wording you talk about but when I go to the PCN portal I can't see any wording. Just deatils about my car and dates and ties. Also video which stops before I immediately turn the car back out of the restricted zone.

Is appealing on the grounds of minimum obstruction and not wanting to cause a danger a non starter?

I'm not really sure I fully understand the argument about the PC portal.

Cheers
Nigel

Re: Southwark PCN Code 33e Restricted road use Dulwich (Now edited)
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To answer your question, sometimes the LA miscite the full PCN charge before the discount is due to expire, the last day of discount is 20 June (if I am not mistaken), so screenshot PCN portal on that date. Other errors are if the PCN portal says it may increase to a charge certificate rate on a date they are not permitted to (won a dulwich bus gate appeal on that), or if they cite a different date to when you submitted a representation/PCN challenge, however their portal seems different in recent times and these errors may not occur, so you should consider other appeal points. The most effective way to win the PCN is on administrative technicalities or if the LA mess up the enforcement process or make a procedural impropriety. However, it would be useful to know when you approached via college road, what did you make of the advance warning sign before the roundabout? Whilst merging off the roundabout what was your thought process? Were you unfamiliar with the area?

Re: Southwark PCN Code 33e Restricted road use Dulwich (Now edited)
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@big_dragon: The PCN is unenforceable because it truncates the period in which the council may serve a charge certificate and therefore the statement is ultra vires. Please cancel.
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Re: Southwark PCN Code 33e Restricted road use Dulwich (Now edited)
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I am familiar with the area but don't drive there much. I did not see the signs on college road (I was following a satnav) and was too late when I turned off the roundabout.