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Camrose Avenue, Harrow PCN
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Hi all,

We've just been issued a PCN from Harrow council for driving through this notorious bus gate "Using A Route Restricted To Certain Vehicles Buses, Cycles And Taxis Only".

We aren't familiar to the area, conditions were dark and it had just finished raining. Additionally, there is no solid white line or adequate signage in advance.

Having looked through previous posts, I can see a lot of people who challenge the PCN are unsuccessful.

I have attached dashcam footage of conditions but I'm wondering if it is even worth appealing? Fully expecting the council to reject our initial challenge, but wondering if it would be successful at the adjudicator

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CjwFpxgBYy4YNE7xZC2PRj0eU8MjFG7Z/view?usp=drive_link


Many thanks for your help and time.


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Re: Camrose Avenue, Harrow PCN
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For meaningful advice we need to see the PCN so please help by having a read of
https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/read-this-first-before-posting-your-case!-this-section-is-for-council-tfl-dartme/

and post up here
(use
ibb.co or https://imgpile.com/
for posting images.
Wherever possible, use the BBCode.)

all sides of the  PCN (redact yr name & address - leave everything else  in),
any council photos/video,
and
a GSV link to the location.

P.S. your drive link needs setting to public...
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Re: Camrose Avenue, Harrow PCN
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Oh dear, not another Camrose Avenue thread ! Join the Club.

You can look at the London Tribunals Statutory Register using Camrose Aveue plus a from date, as your search argument here :-
https://www.londontribunals.gov.uk/about/registers-appeals

This is a major moneyspinner for this council so obviously they have no incentive whatsoever in making the layour more user-friendly.
 
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As above: please the PCN and VRM and all details. "No solid white line" doesn't come into the equation as this is not a bus lane. The advanced information is relevant.
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Re: Camrose Avenue, Harrow PCN
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Hi guys,

Sorry about the broken link - hopefully you can see it here now https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CjwFpxgBYy4YNE7xZC2PRj0eU8MjFG7Z/view?usp=sharing

PCN Arrived in post yesterday so I've put some pics in a google doc - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rmQxi-P5ZEbjxCUY5S25jvwcFFy6mPWNyBbkWGST_A4/edit?tab=t.0

Many thanks!
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Bump! Any advice anyone?
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