Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road Reply #15 on: September 02, 2024, 09:36:15 pm #16 Quote from: Hippocrates on September 02, 2024, 04:45:11 pmDeadline to pay discount is not tomorrow. NOR fails to mention power of adj. to extend time. I would go with cp's advice above.My apologies.It is tomorrow. Logged @Incandescent!I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.To Socrates from "Hippocrates" Like x 1 View List
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road Reply #16 on: September 02, 2024, 10:17:20 pm #17 Quote from: daisy on September 02, 2024, 05:09:20 pmI am sorry, but I am counting 14 days as it says in the letter "beginning with the date of this rejection" so I can pay the reduced rate. Is that not right?You are. Logged @Incandescent!I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.To Socrates from "Hippocrates" Like x 1 View List
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road Reply #17 on: September 03, 2024, 06:00:50 pm #18 Quote from: cp8759 on July 02, 2024, 12:37:09 amI don't see any unforeseeable event in the video, the van might in front of the bus might be pulling over or taking a left turn, it hardly matters. The arguments I can see are:1) De-minimis, the van behind the bus only stops for 5 / 6 seconds, but this is really the upper-limit for a de-minimis defence and won't be accepted by most adjudicators2) Paperwork errors. The PCN makes a reference to the date of service right next to the payment periods, which is arguably ambiguous and confusing.3) The website argument explained in the cases at rows 587 to 603 here.The third point should only be raised at the tribunal stage, but given its success rate it's definitely worth running given Brent's website doesn't list any statutory grounds of appeal at all.As a starting point please post all the remaining pages of the PCN so that we can check for further issues.I have checked both cases mentioned above but I could not see anything relevant. I am sorry but it is so confusing. Logged
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road Reply #18 on: September 04, 2024, 09:06:18 am #19 @daisy Try this one: Muhammadmaisam Datoo v London Borough of Brent (2240196951, 29 July 2024).pdf Google Docs · drive.google.com Have you paid the discount? If not, it is Tribunal time. Also, I do not think they have satisfactorily replied to the dates issue as they describe it as date of service.The de minimis argument would not be accepted by some adjudicators at all. In fact, the ones who used to accept 2 to 3 seconds have now left. Last Edit: September 04, 2024, 09:11:31 am by Hippocrates Logged @Incandescent!I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.To Socrates from "Hippocrates"
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road Reply #19 on: September 04, 2024, 04:49:10 pm #20 Yes,I paid it last night. Thanks for your time and support. Last Edit: September 04, 2024, 08:13:44 pm by daisy Logged
Re: Brent, Code:31, Entering and stopping in a box junction when prohibited, yellow box,Acton Lane/Mordaunt Road Reply #20 on: September 04, 2024, 08:20:41 pm #21 Pity. Logged @Incandescent!I AM ABLE TO TAKE ON MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. I HATE RETIREMENT.If you do not challenge, you join "The Mugged Club".cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.To Socrates from "Hippocrates"