Author Topic: Primary evidence. Which is it? The video or the Penalty Charge Notice?  (Read 1012 times)

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Had a pleasant but short discussion with an adjudicator some weeks back. When I raised this issue, after the appeal was allowed for other reasons, I also mentioned that, of course, and in all cases, unless the PCN is adduced as evidence, the council's case is lost. She then mentioned some legal phrase which I have forgotten/did not hear correctly.  :-[

I am specifically referring to Havering here and a review is pending re another adjudicator's decision who clearly favoured the former definition.

Because of the FTLA shirt, I shall keep my posts as cryptic as possible.  ;)
« Last Edit: December 06, 2024, 06:03:40 pm by Hippocrates »
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

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Re: Primary evidence. Which is it? The video or the Penalty Charge Notice?
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“Best evidence rule”?
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.

Re: Primary evidence. Which is it? The video or the Penalty Charge Notice?
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“Best evidence rule”?

Don't think so. It was some High Court reference and she explained her approach.
IF YOU RECEIVE A MOVING TRAFFIC PCN PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE MAKING A REPRESENTATION:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/moving-traffic-pcns-missing-mandatory-information-the-london-local-authorities-a/msg102639/#msg102639


How do we get more people to fight their PCNs?

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/how-do-we-get-more-people-to-fight-their-pcns/msg41917/#msg41917

If you do not even make a challenge, you will surely join "The Mugged Club".

I am not omniscient. cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

My e mail address for councils:

J.BOND007@H.M.S.S.c/oVAUXHALLBRIDGE/LICENSEDTOEXPOSE.SCAMS.CO.UK

Last mission accomplished:

https://www.ftla.uk/the-flame-pit/southwark-to-r

Re: Primary evidence. Which is it? The video or the Penalty Charge Notice?
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Guessing game here. Gestmin?
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.