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stamfordman

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TFL and DVDs - their technology clock is ticking
« on: March 06, 2025, 02:42:13 pm »
Case yesterday.

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Case Details
Case reference   225000538A
Appellant   Andrew Robert Dragoni-Long
Authority   Transport for London
VRM   BT70ZYM
PCN Details
PCN   GX17347406
Contravention date   30 Jul 2024
Contravention time   18:03:00
Contravention location   WEST HILL SW18 / FIRE STATION
Penalty amount   GBP 160.00
Contravention   Entering and stopping in a box junction
Referral date   -
Decision Date   05 Mar 2025
Adjudicator   Andrew Harman
Appeal decision   Appeal allowed
Direction   
cancel the Penalty Charge Notice.

Reasons   
The appellant appeared before me today at Chancery Exchange.

The enforcement authority, TfL, did not attend the hearing it not being expected to do so.

The contravention alleged in these proceedings was that this vehicle entered and stopped in a box junction when prohibited.

The enforcement authority is in my view under a duty to provide or make available all of its evidence to an appellant, in an accessible form, in good time for the hearing, in order that they might prepare their case in response.

The appellant said, and I accepted, that he had been unable to view the footage.

He said that although the authority had sent him a dvd of it he could not play that dvd because he did not have a dvd player.

Very few people these days do.

All enforcement authorities in London, apart from TfL, provide online access to video footage.

In the absence of this essential evidence in the case not being accessible to the appellant prior to the hearing I was satisfied that he was potentially prejudiced in the conduct of his appeal.

It was, accordingly, allowed.

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Re: TFL and DVDs - their technology clock is ticking
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2025, 11:32:44 pm »
Very interesting.

Most if not all modern computers and laptops do not have a DVD drive either, so if one does not have a DVD player one would not be able to view the footage.

I think a lot of people might want to use that excuse for TFL contraventions.

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Re: TFL and DVDs - their technology clock is ticking
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2025, 03:01:22 pm »
Wow nice!

Yeah I had to ask a friend who had one to look at it, it's true they should send a file of it

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Re: TFL and DVDs - their technology clock is ticking
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2025, 05:10:13 pm »
Interesting case summary - thx
In this day and age it almost beggars belief that TFL are still sending out DVD's - I thought authorities were supposed to be cutting down on environmental waste and streamlining services - how much extra effort does it take to burn a DVD from a file & then post it out? Maybe they have 60,000 unused & unwritten RW DVD's they have to get rid of? Who knows