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Leeds Bradford Airport I expect

Or Lawn Bowls Association
Or Lesbian Bradford Alliance

Probably Leeds Bradford Airport.

The highest in England (around 700 feet)  and, with a less than optimal runway orientation (14/32), the site of some interesting landing exploits in anything more than a gentle breeze.   

Nothing you can do but wait and see if an NIP is issued. Worth a check that V5C is up to date with correct address.

This will shortly be off to the flame pit I expect....

53 in a 50 shouldn't result in any action. Aren't you already on 11 points?

Long story short. I have 2 vehicles. When I moved I  straight away changed my drivers licence but unfortunately wasnt aware that it was also as important to change the logbook registered address.


I clearly wrongly assumed any NIP's would go to the address the DVLA  had on file for my drivers licence ( I now realise thats wrong because I may not have been the driver so it goes to the registered keeper ie  whats on the logbook). (I have been ill for 2  years so keeping track of everything has been difficult).

Anyhow this has only come to my attention after receiving a  'letter before action' for a 3 month old private parking ticket I wasnt aware I had.

I assume what has happened is they have been sending letters to my old address asked another company to trace me and eventually found my  new address.

That is a civil matter and one thing, what I am now concerned about is what happens if I had received any NIP's in that time.

I am not expecting anything but of course nothing is impossible and I wouldn't have known.

Missing a course is one thing, I obviously dont want to be done for not giving details.

Am I right in assuming if a civil case has found my new address within 3 weeks then a criminal one would  too, or sooner?

Hold my hands up I didnt realise it was as important as changing my licence- I  thought they tracked my details from that.

I will do it asap, but in the meantime do I need to worry?

My other vehicle was bought after the move and previously I had a leased car so any correspondence went to them.

Thanks.

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Am I right in assuming if a civil case has found my new address within 3 weeks then a criminal one would  too, or sooner?

No.

So what happens in this situation? My mistake I know and I will update the logbook immediately. I thought I only had to update my drivers licence!

I have been told on another legal forum the following.

'The police are required to ask the Registered Keeper for the details of the driver.

The Registered Keeper is required to keep the DVLA informed of their address (it is an offence to not do this, but I’ve never heard of anyone being prosecuted for it).

I‘m not 100% sure of the process, but it is possible (but a huge PITA) to unwind any prosecution if you can show you genuinely didn’t know.

I’d advise driving very carefully until you get it sorted - it will make life much easier.'

Is this correct?

Thanks.

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Is this correct?

For all practical purposes, yes.

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I thought I only had to update my drivers licence!

Well, now you know.

Thank you.

So  just to be clear, and sorry if this is tedious because I  have since read this often happens and is a 'cliche  mistake'.

If I have received any NIPS I  could unwind any prosecution providing I can show I genuinely didnt know, and trhen provide the details?

I am purely concerned about NIPS because I would only have had to receive 2 that I hadnt answered and it would effectively be a totting up of 12 points!

As I said I am not expecting any at all, I dont know of anything I have done, but its been  2 years so I cant say for sure.

Again thanks for the help.

You could unwind the conviction back to prosecution stage. Far too late to provide details. So you’d either plead guilty (and happily, they will often drop the s 172 if you plead guilty to the speeding) or defend the charges (difficult).

So You would basically plead guilty to the offence  for example speeding and get 3 points and  a fine? But they would drop the failure to furnish?

Or am I misunderstanding here.

Thanks and excuse my ignorance on this, Im just trying to panic as little ass possible until I can get this log book change started Monday.

Is it conceivable offences could go as far back as a year? Or is it likely some correspondence would have caught up by now? Otherwise surely people could be driving around when they should be banned?

Thanks.