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Re: Have I been caught?
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Driver parked at Chiswick Sainsbury's (London W4 5UT) from 3pm to 3.30pm and from 3.55pm to 4.00pm. Maximum stay in the car park in 2 hrs, no return within 1 hr. Here's the sign from the car park: https://imgur.com/a/tVL0lkp .

I'm the registered keeper. Will a parking ticket be sent to me?
We can't possibly know.

If one is indeed sent, it should certainly be to you (though there is no limit to the incompetence of the parking companies). Are your details on the V5C correct?
The details on my V5C are correct. I should rather have asked: will a parking ticket be sent? I'm confident that if one is sent, then it will be sent to me.

Question regarding a speed camera
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I dont know if anyone is familiar with the cameras down  the A338 ( Wessex Way) although its probably irrelevant if  you are aware or not as this is more a general question.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/t6AZXGTHYYJy31mK6 is the link (hopefully) to the camera in question.

I travelled down this road twice at the weekend, but from the opposite direction to  which this camera is facing- as in I was travelling Northbound on the opposite carriageway.

Both times I travelled down here I noticed it flash someone- the second time I suddenly became paranoid it was me. I instantly looked down at my speedometer which was at approximately  between 41 and 42, for reference the limit here is 40. Its a new car but  doesn't have a digital Speedo, so I assume they still  might overread by 1 or 2 MPH?

However  given this was the opposite carriageway  facing the camera, there are no white lines on my side, and I was so close if not on the speed limit I figured it must have surely just been coincidence. I know that Truvelo cameras are forward facing too but aren't they designed not to flash the front of drivers? Is anyone aware of any  fixed Cameras that can cover the opposite lanes of a dual carriageway and also flash?

There was a normal speed camera not far down from this on my side of the road.

I have also attached a picture( I would have been in the position of the dark blue car in the picture bit about 30  yards further back.

Thanks.

Im probably overthinking things here but I just found it odd that both times it flashed  as I approached from the ither side. Im not even sure I was over at all the first time as I  am extra  slow on Dorset roads due to the extreme number of cameras they have. The second time I  MAY have been 1-2 mph over depending on if my speed dial overreads or not.

If anyone needs any extra information happy to provide but hopefully that link should show the camera in question.

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« Last Edit: July 16, 2025, 02:53:33 pm by Never_Enough »

Re: Question regarding a speed camera
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Both times I travelled down here I noticed it flash someone- the second time I suddenly became paranoid it was me. I instantly looked down at my speedometer which was at approximately  between 41 and 42, for reference the limit here is 40. Its a new car but  doesn't have a digital Speedo, so I assume they still  might overread by 1 or 2 MPH?


Your speedo almost certainly over-reads. In any case, no action would normally be taken for speeds below 46 in a 40 limit.

BTW digital speedos are not intrinsically more accurate than analogue ones. Precision is not the same as accuracy. A £5 digital watch may be more precise than a £10,000 analogue Rolex, but it's unlikely to be more accurate.

Re: Question regarding a speed camera
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Both times I travelled down here I noticed it flash someone- the second time I suddenly became paranoid it was me. I instantly looked down at my speedometer which was at approximately  between 41 and 42, for reference the limit here is 40. Its a new car but  doesn't have a digital Speedo, so I assume they still  might overread by 1 or 2 MPH?


Your speedo almost certainly over-reads. In any case, no action would normally be taken for speeds below 46 in a 40 limit.

BTW digital speedos are not intrinsically more accurate than analogue ones. Precision is not the same as accuracy. A £5 digital watch may be more precise than a £10,000 analogue Rolex, but it's unlikely to be more accurate.

Thanks, and incidentally regarding the camera,  would that work on both carridgeways? ( not just both lanes but  traffic travelling  in both directions ( all 4 lanes)- considering it  actually flashed and wasnt infra red which I read the truvelo forward facing ones are).

Thanks again.

Re: Question regarding a speed camera
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Thanks, and incidentally regarding the camera,  would that work on both carridgeways? ( not just both lanes but  traffic travelling  in both directions ( all 4 lanes)- considering it  actually flashed and wasnt infra red which I read the truvelo forward facing ones are).

Thanks again.

I don't think they work on both carriageways, but others may know better.

AFAIK the infra-red is a myth: it's a conventional flash with a magenta filter. Wikipedia confirms that, so it must be true ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truvelo_Combi



Re: Question regarding a speed camera
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Thanks, and incidentally regarding the camera,  would that work on both carridgeways? ( not just both lanes but  traffic travelling  in both directions ( all 4 lanes)- considering it  actually flashed and wasnt infra red which I read the truvelo forward facing ones are).

Thanks again.

I don't think they work on both carriageways, but others may know better.

AFAIK the infra-red is a myth: it's a conventional flash with a magenta filter. Wikipedia confirms that, so it must be true ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truvelo_Combi

But am I right in thinking you wouldnt see a 'flash'?.

Thanks.

Re: Have I been caught?
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Sorry for posting it in the wrong place and thank you for moving it.

If an expert could confirm whether or not this camera can cover  both  sides of the dual carriageways that would be great just to ease my anxiety, although as the previous poster has said if my speedo registered 41 or 42 its likely I would have been ok anyway- just seemed a coincidence it flashed at exactly the same point both times.

I was on the opposite side of the road  going the opposite direction not just in a different lane. There were no white markings on my side.

Quick update.

These cameras appear to be 'Red Flex' digital cameras and can cover 4 lanes of traffic and dont need white lines to work- which worries me, although I  still cant find whether or not they cover in both directions

I have attached a picture of the camera again.

Thanks

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« Last Edit: July 16, 2025, 08:32:26 pm by Never_Enough »

Gantry activation 60 in a 70 - M6 South
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Hello, I have just had a gantry activation driving southbound on the M6.

However! My dashcam footage shows that for the preceding 3 minutes of travel my speed was a constant 70mph. There were no gantry or information signs showing any speed restriction on approach to the gantry where I was flashed. This particular gantry was displaying 50mph signs from as far away as I could see until my approach at around 100-200 yards when all displays were reset and returned to blank screens. As I was in the process of safely slowing down from 70mph to pass the gantry at 50mph my speed was at 60mph when the gantry signs turned off. Assuming the obstruction had been cleared and the speeds returned to NSL I proceeded through the gantry at 60mph with a view to returning to 70mph having not broken the threshold of the gantry while it displayed 50.

As I passed the gantry camera I was the only vehicle immediately going through and the activation would definitely have been for me.

My query is; is there a lag between camera and gantry sign where speeds change back UP to NSL, as there is if in the immediate vicinity of a change DOWN in speed through gantries is in place?

My dashcam footage clearly shows the deactivation of the gantry signs well ahead of my passing the camera, and no previous speed reduction signs on information boards or gantries prior to this one. Further on past the camera gantry there was an information board displaying the NSL sign, but with this being after-the-fact is that irrelevant? As I mention previously my speed throughout the whole journey down the M6 never exceeds 70mph.

I'm obviously now awaiting a NIP and considering my legal approach. As a law abiding person of strong principal I will likely take it to Magistrate Court to appeal.
Thank you for any advice. Dashcam footage is available to share if possible.

Re: Gantry activation 60 in a 70 - M6 South
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There is nothing to appeal as you have not been convicted.

As you have recieve no NIP in your name and you can simple just do nothing. If the NIP arrived in your name you must respond who was the driver in question, you cannot reject the NIP.

You admitted you were speeding at 60mph when the 50mph display was lit.

Re: Have I been caught?
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You admitted you were speeding at 60mph when the 50mph display was lit.

So f*cking what?
I am responsible for the accuracy of the information I post, not your ability to comprehend it.

Re: Have I been caught?
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As I understand it the speed limit is enforced at the threshold such as passing pole that a sign is on on the road, or through the gantry in this case.
I was still travelling toward the gantry when the signs reset so never passed under a posted speed limit sign.
I imagine it is similar to changing lanes shortly before a red X on the motorway. Surely the speed limit cannot be enforced when it becomes visible as I could see the illuminated signs from nearly 1/2 a mile away, but obviously couldn't see what the posted speed limit was until much closer.

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Advice please regarding potential NIP for Red X
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Hello, I hope I am posting this properly (in Have I been Caught, The Flame Pit), as I have had trouble finding out how to do it.

1. I am the registered keeper of my vehicle, have lived at the same address for 5+ years, my V5C is up to date and correct and nobody else drives my vehicle.

2. 21 days ago, on the M** a slip road onto it became the 4th lane and not long afterwards, a gantry displayed a move over sign and then a second gantry displayed a Red X. I was not in the slip lane/Red X lane but needed to exit the motorway at the exit after the Red X. As close as I could do so, I crossed the lane to exit as did 2 vehicles in front of me and 5-6 vehicles behind. I was 14 seconds past the Red X gantry where when I moved over. This gantry had 2 HADEC 3 cameras, there were no police about but my dash cam (screenshot only at this stage) shows a National Highways Vehicle in the Red X Lane. This vehicle had joined from the aforementioned slip road.

3. My Royal Mail post is erratic and I am concerned about any NIP getting lost. I assume that the Highways vehicle had cameras and would have captured several vehicles exiting like myself. There is a Met Police portal you can contact to enquire about "tickets' but it is for speeding tickets. Does anyone have experience of chasing an NIP? I do not know for sure, but if it is from footage captured by the Highways Car, for several vehicles, this could take longer than 14 days for the police to process?

I accept that what I did was wrong and would prefer to deal with any NIP now rather than fail to provide my details as the driver and face a court appearance and additional points. I am asking for advice as I am nervous about ringing on contacting the police to chase up an NIP that they may not yet have issued or  know about.

Thank you,

Potato.

m4 Newport
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I drive this section of the M4 regularly and just got back from a long drive from Portsmouth to the Swansea area.  I had the car on cruise control before the Average speed camera section and I think I reduced the speed on that section, but can't remember setting it back to 66 in the NSL section after, though it was set at that speed well after that.  I set it on my electric car as it's a speed that gives me a decent economy to get home without having to stop to charge.  Now just wondering what the worst I can expect is - 66 on my car is nearer 64 and I have it set on adaptive assist mode.  There wasn't much traffic at all, so I suspect my speed will have been consistent.  It's therefore possible that I went through the whole section at an indicated 66...

For clarity, my licence of 12 years standing is so far clean.
« Last Edit: August 26, 2025, 11:19:35 pm by itsnotmwyouno »

Re: Have I been caught?
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What are you telling us here? That you think you went though a 50mph section at 66mph? Assuming that's what the 'average speed camera section' means, at 66mph you will be eligible for a COFP inviting you to invest £100 and receiving 3 points on your licence in exchange. At 64mph you would be eligible for a speed awareness course.

Re: Have I been caught?
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What are you telling us here? That you think you went though a 50mph section at 66mph? Assuming that's what the 'average speed camera section' means, at 66mph you will be eligible for a COFP inviting you to invest £100 and receiving 3 points on your licence in exchange. At 64mph you would be eligible for a speed awareness course.

It's possible that I went through the whole section from J24 to J28 at around that speed.  I had read somewhere that it isn't necessarily treated as a single offence.