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This was posted on our facebook group from someone who had taken advice "elsewhere"...

Dear sir/madam

Appearing as the sole beneficiary and authorised administrator for and on behalf of the keeper of ……… I am in receipt of your commercial presentment ref ………...I am an honourable man and am happy to settle any lawful demands or claims that you may have against me on condition you supply some basic proof of claim. Proof acceptable to me must consist of the following or your claim against the keeper of ……. is null and void with no case to answer:

1) Proof of claim that you have a witness with first-hand material knowledge of the facts who can testify to having being directly injured as a victim as a result of the actions
2) Proof of claim that Portsmouth City Council Parking Service has full title of ownership to the land known as ‘Cowper Road, Portsmouth, PO1 5LD’ fee simple absolute (ie. free of condition)
3) Proof that Portsmouth City Council Parking Service is exempt from the Bill of Rights 1689 and the rule of Law
4) Proof Portsmouth City Council Parking Service is a judiciary in order to administer the law
5) Proof that on 30/04/2023 I entered into a contract with Portsmouth City Council Parking Service and was given full disclosure of the terms and conditions of said contract and agreed to the terms and conditions
6) Proof that an offer and acceptance took place at Cowper Road, Portsmouth, PO1 5LD on 30/04/2023
7) Know the difference between a legal fiction representing a person and a flesh and blood living human being
8 ) Proof that this charge has been lawfully issued if there is no victim and that , has suffered harm, injury or loss as a result of the alleged offence
9) How you worked out pre-estimate of loss
10) I’m the keeper for vehicle …….., please provide a proof I was the driver when the PCN was being issued
11) PCN was issued at 1am on Sunday for ‘’parked in a restricted street during prescribed hours’’ as matter of fact prescribed hours on Cowper road are Mon-Fri 8am – 4pm only.

I grant you 14 days from receipt of this Notice to supply the valid proofs of claim as outlined above
To further evidence this matter, a Juristic Person is being addressed by yourselves, a Juristic Person (a Corporation), who are both legal entities. Contracts have to be in kind, so only a Corporation can contract with a Corporation, or a human being with a human being. A legal entity, a corporation, cannot order a living being to do anything, as common Law is superior to, and anterior to, Statute; Statute being an Act of Parliament, which is a rule. We are ruled by consent, and I do not consent to this, thank you.
Our laws, Magna Carta 1215, The Declaration of Rights 1688, The Bill of Rights 1689, expressly states we are free men, and further, forbids fines and forfeiture, without justice in a court.

You have also failed to comply with the requirements of Schedule 4 of The Protection Of Freedoms Act 2012 namely, but not limited to, failing to deliver the notice within the relevant period of 14 days as prescribed by section 9 (4) of the Act. You cannot, therefore, transfer liability for the alleged charge from the driver at the time to me, the keeper. There is no legal requirement to name the driver at the time and I will not be doing so.

Any further communication with me on this matter, apart from confirmation of no further action and my details being removed from your records, will be considered vexatious and harassment. This includes communication from any Debt Collection companies you care to instruct.
Please also be advised that any unnecessary administration that is performed in relation to this case (whereupon you do not supply the aforementioned proof of claim) will be charged at a standard rate of Ł50.00 per hour. The initial fee of Ł100 comprising of 2 hours labour at the aforementioned rate will be waived if valid proof is supplied within 14 days.

Yours Sincerely
natural man

Without Prejudice, ill will or vexation


The things falls apart with "I am an honourable man", given the OP is a woman...
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

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The last person I saw try that rubbish went downstairs to the cells.
I am not qualified to give legal advice in the UK. While I will do my best to help you, you should not rely on my advice as if it was given by a lawyer qualified in the UK.
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Without Prejudice, ill will or vexation
They can't be the most vexatious rep ever, they clearly marked their letter 'Without Vexation'  ;)

I like that somewhere in the midst of all of their freeman on the land style nonsense they've clearly paid a visit to PePiPoo and found some of Ostell's private parking template appeals...

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They can't be the most vexatious rep ever, they clearly marked their letter 'Without Vexation'  ;)

I like that somewhere in the midst of all of their freeman on the land style nonsense they've clearly paid a visit to PePiPoo and found some of Ostell's private parking template appeals...
Just a shame that's totally irrelevant as it looks to be Council on-street enforcement of school entrance markings!

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Just a shame that's totally irrelevant as it looks to be Council on-street enforcement of school entrance markings!
Indeed - managed to find a site that may well have been able to help them and ended up lifting entirely the wrong thing.

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Bonkers!
I REGRET THAT, FOR THE PRESENT, I AM UNABLE TO TAKE ON ANY MORE CASES AS A REPRESENTATIVE AT THE LONDON TRIBUNALS. THIS IS FOR BOTH PERSONAL AND LEGAL REASONS. PLEASE DO NOT PM ME UNLESS YOU HAVE POSTED YOUR THREAD ON THE FORUM AND I WILL ATTEMPT TO GIVE ADVICE.


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cp8759 and mrmustard are true geniuses. I know my place in the hierarchy of The Three Musketeers. 😊 "The Clinician", "The Gentleman" and "The Showman"

There are "known knowns" which we may never have wished to know. This applies to them. But in the field the idea that there are also "unknown unknowns" doesn't apply as they hide in the aleatoric lottery. I know this is true and need to be prepared knowing the "unknown unknowns" may well apply.

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I wonder if that was an informal or formal load of tosh.

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Love both relying on statue and some FMOTL nonsense.

On the flipside, they do deserve some sympathy for being the only person in the country held to task for parking outside a school. We walk to school but the local residents are always angry about school run mums abandoning their cars across driveways and sometimes just in the middle of the road to get their sprog a few metres closer to the school gate.

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to get their sprog a few metres closer to the school gate.
One man's "sprog" is another man's "flesh and blood living human being"

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I wonder if that was an informal or formal load of tosh.
Informal, I did look for something at the formal stage but a plea for discretion was the best I could do.
I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor or a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule. I am a member of the Society of Professional McKenzie Friends, my membership number is FM193 and I abide by the SPMF service standards.

Quote from: 'Gumph' date='Thu, 19 Jan 2023 - 10:23'
cp8759 is, indeed, a Wizard of the First Order

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I love reading FMOTL stuff. Makes me smile.