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Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2023, 01:54:33 am »
At least one flight I took this year with either Ryanair or EasyJet had in-flight WiFi - it could only be used to access the in-flight duty free menu and some advertising for the airline/destination, but nevertheless suggests they have internet access which could presumably be used for processing card transactions (these use very little bandwidth). If not, and they're using them offline, the risk of a card declining post-landing is presumably reduced by the fact that they can record which seat numbers order what, and then chase up any customers whose payment doesn't go through.

I was hoping my easyJet flight was one of these with it, but alas it wasn't. Was going to have a snoop round it.

I believe, from what they say in their duty free menu thing and online on easyJet at least, that it's just a "local" wifi network, there's no internet connection at all, your devices just talk to a local Wifi AP / very expensive "aircraft grade" raspberry pi... The advertising is almost certainly cached locally too.

easyJet actually state that the card payments are processed "offline". My Barclaycard actually got declined (surprisingly), but Monzo via Google Pay all fine and went through first time.

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« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2023, 09:01:50 pm »
are their town (city) centre pubs really cashless?
Depends how fast you can run.

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Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2023, 11:24:53 am »
Also agree!
There is a Law(?) that both Debit and Credit cards must be accepted on the same terms as each other - a few years ago if I have this right.
So why not add that Cash must also be accepted on the same basis.
Incidentally, even if an outlet says they don't accept cash, I do wonder what they would do if you take an item and leave the right change on the counter and walk out. To me that is a perfectly legal act?

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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2023, 12:22:35 pm »
What if I decide that your car is worth £50, leave £50 and take your car. Equally legal.
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Re: Cashless,,,tis the future Rodders.
« Reply #19 on: December 10, 2023, 08:13:03 pm »
I might report a part-stolen car to the police and not let you have the V5C

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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2023, 10:14:04 pm »
To me that is a perfectly legal act?

Considering that a shop doesn’t have to sell you anything, and that displaying an item for sale is an invitation for a customer to offer to buy it and not an offer to sell it, doing so may well amount to theft.
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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2024, 10:54:15 pm »
Seems the ROI has done exactly what I suggested: https://archive.is/NAmRJ
I am not on the "motorists's side", nor am I on the "police/CPS/council's" side, I am simply in favour of the rule of law. Section 6 of the Interpretation Act 1978 applies to everything I post as it would apply to an Act of Parliament. I am a Conservative councillor, this means some people think I am "scum". I practice law in the Traffic Penalty Tribunal, London Tribunals, the First-tier tribunal for Scotland, and the Traffic Penalty Tribunal for Northern Ireland, but I am not a solicitor nor a barrister. Notwithstanding this, I voluntarily apply the cab rank rule.

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2024, 01:54:48 pm »
The same should happen with paying for parking.   For example there's a car park at a tourist attraction in Hounslow where if you can't for any reason use their app to pay the nearest place you can use cash to pay is a 20 minute walk away.