Author Topic: NIP - can it be challenged on basis of speed lines being hidden by hedging?  (Read 1392 times)

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In receipt of an NIP - as per images :

https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME13FVX0
https://www.imagebam.com/view/ME13FVWZ

Based on my calculations (which could indeed by wrong) it looks like it can be challenged - ie not doing 80.

The lines on the road suggest it's within the number to be below 80 mph, in addition there are lines hidden by tree growth which make it difficult to double check so would this be another reason to challenge.

Your help is much appreciated.

KR Seamus.

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Suspect the lines on the road are historic, when the older GATSO (one per lane) devices were used. Based on the photos it's looks a HADECS3 setup (single device monitoring all lanes), lines on the road aren't used for verification.

If the vehicle is within the two lines, the speed is verified as correct.

The police will almost certainly offer you a course for this offence (provided you have not done one in the last three years). This will cost you a few hours of your time and about £100. If that is not offered, or you do not fancy it, a fixed penalty of £100 and three points is the alternative.

If you want to challenge it, the only option is to decline those offers and plead not guilty in court.

The system which measured your speed is assumed to be working correctly unless it can be proved otherwise. That proof will have to come from you. You will have to show that it cannot be relied upon to measure your speed accurately enough so that the court is sure you committed the offence.

If you fail you will face a fine of half a week’s net income, a “victim surcharge” of 40% of that fine and costs which will be at least £620, and possibly considerably more if the police have to enlist an expert to counter your claims.

Based on my calculations (which could indeed by wrong) it looks like it can be challenged - ie not doing 80.
My calculations:
Distance moved: ~12.5m
Interval @ 0.35 = 35.7m/s = 79.9mph

(Distance using Google Earth measurement on line spacing)

If the vehicle is within the two lines, the speed is verified as correct.
But this ^
« Last Edit: July 07, 2025, 08:19:33 pm by JustLoveCars »

Thank you for all the input, very informative and looks like taking it on the chin is the best and only option.