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WestYorkshireLeeds

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Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« on: December 13, 2023, 11:15:43 pm »
First of all, I do not know if i committed this offence, two years ago next month.

So I received a letter from a magistrates asking me to pay a fine of £322.25 for no reason whatsoever, when i rang them to ask about it they told me it was for driving a vehicle on the road when it was on SORN.

The person also told me they had been sending letters to the wrong address, 4 doors down over the road & that i could appeal.

Also, if the bike didn't have tax, it didn't have insurance or MOT. So will they be next things they'll come at me for?

I can't remember last month, never mind the 15th January 2022.

How do I go about this? I do not know if I am guilty of it or not.

I was sent here by a Facebook group.  :-X
« Last Edit: December 13, 2023, 11:55:32 pm by WestYorkshireLeeds »

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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #1 on: December 14, 2023, 06:55:46 am »
I'd suggest trying to work this out - my guess is notthat you 'rode it on the road' per se, but that it was neither insured or SORNed
1. Did you own the motrobike for that period?
2. Is/Was the V5 address correct?
3. Was the bike used on the road - not having an MoT or insurance isn't an offence if the bike was not
4. January 2022 is less than 2 years ago so bank statements will tell about payments to DVLA, insurers etc

That's a start!

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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #2 on: December 14, 2023, 10:37:59 am »
Not having tax doesn't mean it doesn't have MOT/insurance, they are not dependant on it being taxed.  If you mean if it was being ridden, the DVLA are responsible for tax prosecutions, the Police for MOT/Ins so that won't be an issue

As above, it's more likely the bike was registered to the wrong address and as such they sent all the communications to that correct address (that wasn't yours).

You presumably remember SORNing it?

Was it left on the road at all, as that is 'using' and an offence as it (SORN....) must be OFF ROAD.
There are motorists who have been scammed and those who are yet to be scammed!

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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2023, 11:05:32 am »
I still own the bike.

Both my drivers license and the bikes V5 logbook are at the correct address, always have been, They sent the SJP notices to #35 instead of #34. #35 is a derelict house.

I wouldn't use a bike on the road without insurance, the bike had many mechanical issues when purchased and spent 3 months in my garage being worked on.

I insure and MOT bikes when theyre off for MOT,

I do not remember sorning it. But I could have?

Bloody 2 years, I'm going to apply for it to be reheard in court based on me never receiving any of their SJP. What's the chances of them upping the fine because they couldn't find me?
« Last Edit: December 14, 2023, 06:02:56 pm by WestYorkshireLeeds »

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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #4 on: December 14, 2023, 11:46:33 am »
They might try but if you have CHECKED the V5C and the address is correct and they've sent the correspondence elsewhere, you're fairly safe. If you SORNed the bike, you would have had a confirmation.

FFS don't comment openly on test rides on a public road without insurance...........

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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2023, 12:32:39 pm »
I don't see how the V5 being correct necessarily helps even if any correspondence was misdelivered.

The fine is presumably for keeping the untaxed vehicle (plus the back tax).

The fact of misdelivery of reminders and out of court settlement doesn't change that.

It could be that the DVLA might be persuaded to reoffer an out of court settlement after a statutory declaration which would be cheaper.


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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2023, 08:44:05 pm »
 If you didnít SORN it then you didnít need to ride it (and possibly are mistaken about what the fine is for) as you were guilty of failing either tax or insure it.
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Re: Fine for riding a bike without tax, from 2 years ago.
« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2024, 02:19:52 pm »
Statutory Declaration has been accepted, judge on the phone said nowhere does it mention being seen on the road its likely because I didn't sorn it.

Back to the DVLA to start proceedings again.