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I received 4 speeding letters all over 100mph within the same hour on the same motorway. I am now expecting 4 court dates as I didn't fill in the first letters that arrived stating it was me driving but filled in later letters asking if I pleaded guilty or not and would I like to go to court or not. I said I was the driver and pleaded guilty, also I do want to go to court as I have a reason for doing the speed in question.

• I read on the Internet that If you are caught speeding multiple times on the same journey, the court will assess whether these are separate incidents or part of the same continuous journey.

• Court's Discretion:

The court has discretion to decide whether to treat the offenses separately or together.

• Factors Considered:

The court will consider the facts of each case, including the time and distance between the offenses, to determine if they are part of the same journey.

My question is how do I get four separate court dates for speeding rolled into one court date as I was on one continuous journey and the time apart from each camera was approximately 10-15minutes on the same stretch of motorway.

I think that this statement needs a bit more explanation.  Dates?

I didn't fill in the first letters that arrived stating it was me driving

This sounds like you didn't nominate the driver?

...but filled in later letters asking if I pleaded guilty or not and would I like to go to court or not. I said I was the driver and pleaded guilty

To be clear, what offences have you plead guilty to?  If you did not name the driver as originally requested there could be s172 offences (for failing to nominate driver).

If you are facing multiple s172 offences you are in a bit of hole as the circumstances of the speeding might not be relevant.

also I do want to go to court as I have a reason for doing the speed in question.

Can you expand?  There are very few reasons to exceed the limit.

I couldn't respond as I was in hospital when the letter arrived asking me to nominate the driver. Hence me replying at a later date and pleading guilty.

Quote from: NeedSomeAdvice123 on March 20, 2025, 02:30:40 pm

I didn't fill in the first letters that arrived stating it was me driving

This sounds like you didn't nominate the driver?

Quote from: NeedSomeAdvice123 on March 20, 2025, 02:30:40 pm

...but filled in later letters asking if I pleaded guilty or not and would I like to go to court or not. I said I was the driver and pleaded guilty

To be clear, what offences have you plead guilty to?  If you did not name the driver as originally requested there could be s172 offences (for failing to nominate driver).

If you are facing multiple s172 offences you are in a bit of hole as the circumstances of the speeding might not be relevant.

Quote from: NeedSomeAdvice123 on March 20, 2025, 02:30:40 pm

also I do want to go to court as I have a reason for doing the speed in question.

Can you expand?  There are very few reasons to exceed the limit.

Your correct I am also facing the fact I didn't nominate the driver with the first letters s172 but as I was in hospital I couldn't respond so hoping that is a good enough reason. I have evidence to confirm my hospital stay also

We take a broadly holistic approach to giving advice. This is partly because we have no intention wasting our time trying to answer irrelevant questions, and partly because we try to advise you how best to deal with whatever situation you have found yourself in, rather than provide a narrow answer to potentially irrelevant questions.

Posting unattributed "legal advice" to pad out your actual question is unlikely to win you many friends here. Neither is restating the same question without answering key questions. Or any form of "bumping".

Have you provided the driver's details in respect of all the s. 172 requirements?

What offence(s) have you been charged with?

What offence(s) have you pleaded guilty to?

Yes I have provided the driver details being myself.

I have been charged with s172 failure to provided driver details and speeding times 4.

I have pled guilty to all.

I am now waiting on court dates to explain myself

I have pled guilty to all.

Ouch. If you have pleaded guilty to four sets of speeding and four sets of s 172, you’re potentially looking at 36 points.

Broadly speaking, a plea entered prior to an conventional trial/hearing may be considered indicative. You probably want to be asking the court(s) to vacate the pleas, sooner rather than later.

As regards, the s. 172 charges, if it was not reasonably practicable to provide the information within the statutory 28 days, *and* you provided it as soon as was reasonably practicable afterwards, you have a defence. If you were simply waiting to see what else was going to drop through the letterbox, not so much.

As regards the speeding, logistically if you were exceeding the speed limit continuously for the entire duration, that is only 1 offence. If you slowed to below the speed limit in between the times you were recorded, not so much. This is a separate argument to the multiple offences on a single occasion argument.

Some posters mostly know exactly what they're doing and only need clarification on one or two points. They do not typically plead guilty to charges that they feel they have a defence for.

If you don't want to provide meaningful information for us to base our advice on, that's entirely up to you. In much the same way that closing the thread when you exceed our tolerance for drip feeding is down to us.