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Usiaw

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UK Car Park Management PCN (No Permit) & Debt Recovery Plus
« on: November 27, 2024, 09:26:00 pm »
Hello,

Hoping to receive some advice, please.

The registered keeper received a PCN from UK CPM in August 2024 and this has been passed onto Debt Recovery Plus (DRP) the latter of whom have most recently sent a letter in November 2024.

The driver lives in the development with the flat owner and almost always has an official UK CPM permit displayed when they park there, but on this occasion they had forgotten to place one on the dashboard due to returning very late one evening after work.

The PCN photos were taken before 06:00 the following morning.

Frustratingly, after trying to get this cancelled via the building management company in charge of managing the development (who are very poorly rated by all residents both in this and on other development, and the several hundred 1-star reviews paint them too kindly), they were advised that they (the building management) "requested the PCN be cancelled but were denied by the UK CPM administrator".

The building manager's reasoning for the PCN not being cancelled was that, as they do not actually pay UK CPM to enforce parking on the site, UK CPM are unlikely to agree to cancel any PCNs, even if requested by the building management company that instructed them, as that is the only way they make money from their relationship.

So, the registered keeper tried to appeal to UK CPM directly, was rejected (unsurprisingly), and has since received some follow-up letters from DRP. Having researched this a bit, it seems that the consensus is to ignore the DRP letters and wait for a potential Letter of/before Claim (which may be quite likely, as UK CPM are apparently the most litigious PPC in the country).


- Original PCN (redacted):
https://imgur.com/yaMEYPv
https://imgur.com/9RaRegy

- Latest DRP correspondence (redacted):
https://imgur.com/KayetCQ
https://imgur.com/24EDPDP
https://imgur.com/W7rot6R

- Parking sign: Photo TBC ASAP

Is there anything else the registered keeper should be doing at the moment aside from waiting to see whether an LoC/LBC will be sent? They have considered asking the building management company again to cancel this, but that company are really unhelpful and this is unlikely to go anywhere. Can UK CPM even cancel it at this stage, given it's now been passed onto DRP?

If this does go to court, are there any valid challenges/appeals the registered keeper can use?

Thank you

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Re: UK Car Park Management PCN (No Permit) & Debt Recovery Plus
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2024, 12:35:00 am »
You are correct about ignoring DRP and any other useless debt collector. It is too late to try and make any further appeal.

What does the flat owners lease say about parking? What it doesn’t say about parking is equally important. For example, does it mention anything about requiring a permit to park?

The management company if fobbing you off. CPM UK can call it off at any stage. You could ask the management company who is the organ-grinder and who is the monkey in their contractual relationship?

For now, continue to ignore DRAs and tell is what the lease actually says or doesn’t say about parking.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain