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I have received a letter from Trace Debt Recovery on behalf of Alliance Parking UK Ltd for a PCN dated June 2020. Since that time I have moved house, had said car stolen (a week later) and I moved to be near my parents as my mum is battling cancer and I spend a lot of time at the hospital - most recently 12 hours a day for weeks on end. I have a vague memory of the time in question, it was during covid and I went to visit a friend before she left for Sri Lanka. I have tried reading all the forums and have seen to ignore Trace as they cannot do anything but I really dont know what to do. I can't afford to pay £160 for a fine I didnt know I had four years ago. Can anyone advise?

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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
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You can safely ignore Trace and any other debt collector. They are powerless to do anything. Never, ever try and communicate with a useless debt collector.

It is far too late to try and appeal anything now. What you are waiting to see is if Alliance Parking decide to try and initiate litigation to try and recover the alleged debt.

There is no debt unless a judge says so, so don't feel as though you are indebted to them, you aren't.

So, ignore all debt collector letters. If/when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC) either from Alliance themselves or one of a number of bulk litigators, come back and show us.

Anything that only gives you 14 days to pay is a debt collection letter. An LoC will give you 30 days to pay.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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First you should not ignore this.

You could make a subject access request to Alliance Parking the data control officer for all the details etc they hold for you.
This should include the original PPN.

You should include all references you have and proof of the address, usually a household bill with personal details redacted.

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Wrong! You do not want a SAR until after any claim has been issued. The biggest mistake most of these operators make is screwing up the Particulars of Claim (PoC). Whilst it is no excuse, they do try and argue that the defendant should have known what it was all about, especially if they can show that they answered a SAR at any stage before a claim was issued.

A SAR now, will not prevent any possible future litigation. Let them issue a claim that fails CPR 16.4 and you have a very strong chance that it will be struck out before it ever gets anywhere near a hearing.

If you desperately want to know all the details, submit a SAR after a claim has been issued.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thanks both. From my memory at the time, my friend told me it was free to park and she said to ignore the fine as it was a private car park. Obviously incorrect information and I wasn't there very long. I then had my car stolen and I moved house so I haven't heard anything since - but perhaps it was going to my old address. I moved 15 months ago. I have never replied or engaged with either Alliance or Trace.

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You should contact the DPO of Alliance and serve a Data Rectification Notice on them to update their records with your current address for service and to erase your old address (that would have been on your V5C at the time of the alleged contravention). Also tell them to advise any third parties that they may have passed your details on to.

Alliance Parking Data Protection Officer contact details: info@alliance-parking.co.uk
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Is it bad to contact them with up to date details if I've ignored the contact from Trace?

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No, in fact it's the wise thing to do. You don't want to leave open the possibility of a court claim being served to your old address.

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To clarify, the current post that I received from Trace was sent to my current up to date address

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I'm aware of that - it would still be sensible to ensure the alleged creditor (Alliance Parking) has been made aware of your new address though.

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ok thank you so much, will do

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If they hold two possible addresses for you, they could decide to send serve any court documents to the old address which then go unanswered and you end up with a CCJ by default. It is undoable but a PITA.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Me again! I received a third letter from Trace - I've attached below. Presumably this is standard and to not engage? Thank you for your help in advance.


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Re: Trace Debt Recovery - Alliance Parking - 2020 I think
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Ignore 'em - it's a Letter of Claim from Alliance or their solicitors that you're keeping an eye out for.

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Ignore 'em - it's a Letter of Claim from Alliance or their solicitors that you're keeping an eye out for.

Thank you