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Re: Total Car Parks - Gorleston High Street - Paid less than displayed tariff
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Hi all, just a quick one to say, the RK finally submitted the appeal today (14th September). The appeal rejection letter said " You have 28 days from the date of this letter to submit an appeal to POPLA", and the letter was dated 18th August so +28 days = 15th September. So, cutting it fine but, submitted in time.



Anyway, the POPLA form was pretty straightforward. The final reply was tweaked slightly, namely to remove any "I"s which might ruin everything. A paragraph was also added to clarify the sign wording also, which states "60 minutes free parking. charges apply to all vehicles after 60 minutes". And the fact that any reasonable person would interpret this as "pay for hours after the free one".


Below is the appeal submitted to POPLA in full:


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And now we wait!

Re: Total Car Parks - Gorleston High Street - Paid less than displayed tariff
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That should do it but you are presuming that the POPLA assessor is not intellectually malnourished. Some of them can be quite moronic.

You may as well have written your appeal in the style of a Janet & John early years story aimed at a toddler:

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This is a story about a parking ticket.

Here is the Keeper. The Keeper got a letter from Total Car Parks on 6 August 2025 (letter dated 1 August 2025). The Keeper says, “I do not owe this charge and I appeal it.”

There is a Law Book called the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. People call it PoFA 2012. In PoFA, there is a rule at Schedule 4, paragraph 9(2)(e)(i). The rule says the notice must do two things: it must say the parking company does not know who the driver is, and it must invite the Keeper to pay the unpaid parking charge.

Now we read the Total Car Parks letter. It says: “The driver must pay.” It also says: “If you were not the driver, tell us who was and pass this notice to them.” The letter does not invite the Keeper to pay. Not once.

Janet reads the Law Book rule. John reads the letter. They both see the same thing: the rule says “invite the Keeper to pay”; the letter does not do that. So the letter does not follow the rule.

When a letter does not follow PoFA 2012, the parking company cannot use PoFA to make the Keeper pay. They can only try to ask the driver. But the parking company says they do not know who the driver is. The Keeper will not say who was driving. So keeper liability does not arise. That single point wins the appeal.

Now here is what happened at the car park.

The driver arrived at about 8:33 pm. The big sign said “60 Minutes Free Parking” and “Charges apply to all vehicles after 60 minutes.” The machine did not take a card, so the driver used Parkonomy on a phone. At 9:19 pm the driver paid for two hours of parking. The Parkonomy session ran from 9:20 pm to 11:20 pm. The car left at about 11:15 pm. The paid time had not ended. The car went before 11:20 pm.

Janet looks at the sign again. The sign talks about one free hour and then charges “after 60 minutes”. It does not clearly explain if the free hour is on top of paid time or part of it. It does not clearly show how to add up the stay. When signs are unclear, the Consumer Rights Act 2015 says terms must be transparent and fair. If words are unclear, they are read in the consumer’s favour. A fair and clear sign would explain exactly how the free hour fits with paid time. This one did not.

There is also a rule in the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (February 2025, section F1(j)). It says parking charges must not be pursued where there is proof that payment was made for the full period of parking before the car left. Here, payment was made before the free hour ended and covered the rest of the stay. The car left before the paid period ended. So a charge should not be pursued.

Let us put it simply.

The PoFA rule needs the letter to invite the Keeper to pay. The Total Car Parks letter does not do that. So PoFA keeper liability fails. That ends the matter.

Even if you look past that, the driver paid before time ran out and left before the paid time ended. The sign was unclear about how the free hour works. Unclear terms are not fair.

Please allow this appeal. Total Car Parks may only pursue the driver, and they say they do not know who that is. The Keeper is not liable under PoFA.
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