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Hilarious. That Witness Statement is as valid as this one I have authorising me to issue PCNs at Buckingham Palace:

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WITNESS STATEMENT

On behalf of the Sovereign Estate of Buckingham Palace, I confirm that:

1. The site is Buckingham Palace, London SW1A 1AA.
2. The Operator is B789, acting in a personal capacity with full self-certification.
3. The Operator is authorised by the landowner (pending identification) to undertake parking management and enforcement at the site.
4. The Operator is authorised in an agreement dated 01/04/1066, running in perpetuity unless revoked by Act of Parliament or divine intervention.
5. The Operator is authorised by the Landowner in the agreement to issue Parking Charge Notices for breaches of the parking terms and conditions, including but not limited to carriage misalignment and improper corgi tethering.
6. The Operator is authorised to erect signage at the site, including laminated notices affixed to ceremonial railings.
7. The Operator is authorised to install and operate an Automatic Number Plate Recognition system, comprising a pair of opera glasses and a clipboard.
8. The Operator is authorised to pursue unpaid parking charges through debt recovery, court action, or dramatic readings in the House of Lords.
9. The Operator is authorised to retain the income from Parking Charge Notices issued at the site, to be stored in a velvet pouch under the throne.
10. The Operator is authorised to share data with the DVLA, MI6, and the Yeoman Warders as required.
11. The Operator is a member of the British Parking Association Approved Operator Scheme, subject to retrospective approval.
12. The Operator is responsible under the contract for putting up and maintaining the signage, unless it interferes with the Changing of the Guard.

I confirm that I am authorised to make this statement on behalf of the Landowner, the Crown, and any other entity whose name may be invoked for convenience, and that the above information is true to the best of my imagination and belief.

Agreed and signed: **REDACTED**
Date: 24 August 2025
Print name: **REDACTED**
Position: Royal Parking Enforcement Delegate (Self-Appointed)
For and on behalf of: **REDACTED**
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I appealed to POPLA and the operator has uploaded the following documents, is there anything should I do at this point?

I appealed to POPLA and the operator has uploaded the following documents, is there anything should I do at this point?

I appealed to POPLA and the operator has uploaded the following documents, is there anything should I do at this point?

I appealed to POPLA and the operator has uploaded the following documents, is there anything should I do at this point?

Use the following to copy and paste into the webform for the rebuttal of the operators evidence. It has been checked to comply with the 10,000 character limitation:

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1. Signage: A Masterclass in Concealment

UKPC’s signage is a textbook breach of the "Red Hand Rule", articulated by Lord Denning in Spurling v Bradshaw [1956]. He stated:

- “Some clauses which I have seen would need to be printed in red ink on the face of the document with a red hand pointing to it before the notice could be held to be sufficient.”

The £100 charge—arguably the most onerous term—is buried in small print, indistinguishable from the surrounding clutter. It is not highlighted, not bolded, not enlarged, and certainly not “adequately brought to the attention of the driver” as required by:

- Paragraph 2(2) of PoFA which states that the parking charge must be a sum “of which ADEQUATE NOTICE was given to drivers.” - Paragraph 2(3) defines “ADEQUATE NOTICE” as signage that MUST:
  - Specifiy the sum as the charge for unauthorised parking, and
  - Is ADEQUATE to bring the charge to the notice of drivers who park vehicles on the relevant land.

UKPC’s signs fail both tests. The signage is a visual fog of generic prohibitions, privacy disclaimers, and irrelevant data protection blather. The £100 charge is not prominent—it’s camouflaged. This is not contract formation; it’s entrapment by obfuscation. The signage does not meet the statutory definition of “adequate notice,” and therefore UKPC cannot rely on PoFA to establish keeper liability.

2. PoFA Contradictions: Paragraph 9 vs Paragraph 8

UKPC’s own submission is a self-defeating contradiction. They claim compliance with Paragraph 9 of Schedule 4 (which applies when no Notice to Driver is served), then immediately cite Paragraph 8(6)—which only applies when a Notice to Driver has been served.

This is not a minor technicality. It’s a fundamental procedural error. You cannot invoke both paragraphs simultaneously. Either:

- A Notice to Driver was served -> Paragraph 8 applies.
- No Notice to Driver was served -> Paragraph 9 applies.

UKPC’s attempt to cherry-pick provisions from both paragraphs is legally incoherent. It’s akin to quoting two different statutes to justify one act—without regard for context or applicability. If POPLA accepts this contradiction, it undermines the statutory framework of PoFA entirely.

3. Jopson v Homeguard: Binding Authority on Delivery Stops

UKPC’s assertion that “any stationary vehicle is deemed parked” is not only absurd—it’s judicially discredited. In Jopson v Homeguard Services Ltd [2016] B9GF0A9E, His Honour Judge Harris QC stated:

“Merely to stop a vehicle cannot be to park it; otherwise traffic jams would consist of lines of parked cars. Delivery vans… would not be accommodated on an interpretation which included vehicles stopping for a few moments for these purposes.”

He went further:

“Whether a car is parked, or simply stopped, or left for a moment while unloading... must be a question of fact or degree.”

The vehicle in question was a delivery van, stopped for 20 minutes and 26 seconds to deliver parcels to residents. This is not “parking”—it is loading/unloading, a lawful and necessary activity. UKPC’s refusal to acknowledge this distinction is not just legally flawed—it’s contemptuous of judicial authority.

If POPLA chooses to ignore Jopson, it is not merely overlooking persuasive precedent—it is disregarding binding judicial interpretation of the very concept it purports to enforce.

4. Keeper Liability: Procedural Failure

UKPC claims the Notice to Keeper was issued 4 days after the event and delivered within the statutory timeframe. But they offer no proof of posting—only a claim. Under the PPSCoP, operators MUST retain a record of the date of posting, not just the date of generation. Without this, the presumption of delivery under PoFA 8(6) fails and is rebutted.

Moreover, as already established, UKPC cannot rely on both Paragraph 8 and Paragraph 9 of PoFA. Their submission is internally contradictory and legally incoherent. Keeper liability cannot be enforced on a foundation of procedural confusion.

5. The So-Called Landowner "Witness Statement”

UKPC’s so-called witness statement is a mockery of evidential standards and a textbook example of how template-based fiction is being passed off as legal authority. It is a generic, boilerplate document that fails to meet even the most basic requirements of Section 14.1 of the PPSCoP. It contains no proof that the signatory has any authority whatsoever to bind the landowner. It is not dated in relation to the alleged contravention, and it offers no site-specific detail beyond the name of the location.

A witness statement is not a contract. It is not enforceable. It is not compliant. It is a piece of paper with vague assertions and a redacted signature offering no verifiable link to the landowner, no duration of authority, and no supporting documentation. If this is the standard of evidence POPLA accepts, then the entire concept of “landowner authority” becomes meaningless. Section 14.1 of the Code of Practice explicitly requires a valid, contemporaneous agreement showing the operator’s authority to issue PCNs and pursue legal action. UKPC has failed to provide this.

To illustrate the absurdity of accepting such a document as proof of contractual authority, anyone could parody that "witness statement" and could fabricate “evidence” of landowner authority using nothing more than imagination and a keyboard.

If POPLA accepts UKPC’s version as proof of a valid contract flowing from the landowner, despite its lack of compliance with Section 14.1 of the Code of Practice, including the redaction of signatories and absence of supporting documentation, then it will be further evidence of the inherent failures in the system.

The PPSCoP section 14.1 requires written confirmation from the landowner covering:

a) the identity of the landowner(s)
b) a boundary map of the land to be managed
c) any applicable byelaws
d) the permission granted and its duration
e) the parking terms and conditions, including exemptions
f) the method of issuing parking charges
g) responsibility for obtaining relevant consents
h) obligations under the Code and ATA membership
i) documentation to be supplied to authorised bodies
j) the operator’s approach to handling appeals

None of the information listed above is commercially sensitive, nor has UKPC provided any of it. Their submission fails entirely to meet the evidentiary requirements set out in Section 14.1 of the Private Parking Code of Practice. It does not contain a signed, dated, and site-specific agreement between the landowner and the operator, nor does it establish the scope, duration, or enforceability of any purported authority. In legal terms, it is inadmissible.

A redacted, illegibly signed witness statement—unsupported by contemporaneous documentation and devoid of contractual substance—cannot be construed as proof of landowner authority under any reasonable interpretation of the statutory framework. Acceptance of such material would constitute a breach of POPLA’s duty to apply the Code of Practice with rigour and impartiality.

It would also undermine the statutory safeguards enshrined in Schedule 4 of PoFA, which require demonstrable authority to pursue keeper liability. If POPLA accepts this submission as sufficient, it will confirm the systemic failure of the current appeals process and reinforce the urgent need for reform.

The Private Parking (Code of Practice) Act 2019 was enacted precisely to eliminate this kind of evidential theatre and replace it with a transparent, accountable, and legally compliant framework—one that cannot be manipulated by operators relying on template fiction and procedural sleight of hand.

6. The Driver Has Not Been Identified

The driver remains unidentified. In the absence of full compliance with the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012—as detailed in the appeal—there can be no transfer of liability to the Keeper. The Keeper is under no legal obligation to name the driver, and without such identification, the operator has no lawful basis to pursue the Keeper.

The persuasive authority of VCS v Edward (2023) confirms that operators cannot rely on assumption or inference to establish that the Keeper was the driver. Liability cannot be imposed without clear, unequivocal evidence. No such evidence has been presented, and therefore, the charge must fail.

Summary

UKPC’s signage fails the Red Hand Rule and breaches PoFA 2(2) and 2(3). Their reliance on both Paragraphs 8 and 9 of PoFA is legally contradictory. Their definition of “parking” is judicially discredited by Jopson v Homeguard. Their evidence is riddled with procedural errors, unsupported assertions, and irrelevant boilerplate. Their landowner witness statement is a joke.

If POPLA upholds this charge, it will be doing so in defiance of statute, precedent, and basic contractual principles. That outcome would speak volumes—not about the merits of the case, but about the credibility of the appeals process itself.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I appealed to POPLA and the operator has uploaded the following documents, is there anything should I do at this point?

These are the google drive documents,
check the link below:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1lJ5i5CnGe9zZCy3clITfEEq2Axi4zmtR

I have already advised you on what to put in your response to the operators evidence. You only have to copy and paste it into the webform.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

@b789 Thanks for your detailed response, much appreciated.

I have supplied the response to POPLA, I’ll inform you about the outcome.

Thanks.

Hi the appeal is rejected and they send me this document now please tell me what should i do further?
You can check link below.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KlJxKc0YvYNrSN1-qVzVL9aTiRA6JKxc/view?usp=drivesdk

A classic example of a POPLA "anal orifice" decision. Never mind. The POPLA decision is not binding on you. Do not pay.

You can safely ignore all the useless debt recovery letters you are now going to receive. Debt collectors are powerless to do anything except to try and intimidate the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying up out of ignorance and fear.

Come back when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC). All debt recovery letters can be shredded and used as Hamster bedding for anyone cares. We don't need to know about them.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain


Which bit of this advice was not clear?

You can safely ignore all the useless debt recovery letters you are now going to receive. Debt collectors are powerless to do anything except to try and intimidate the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree into paying up out of ignorance and fear.

Come back when you receive a Letter of Claim (LoC). All debt recovery letters can be shredded and used as Hamster bedding for anyone cares. We don't need to know about them.

ZZPS is a powerless, bottom-dwelling firm of debt collectors with absolutely no power to do anything. Treat them as the equivalent of brown smelly stuff you avoid stepping in. You can also ignore the next set of letters you will probably receive from GCTT, which is just another knuckle dragging moron sitting at the desk next to the anal orifice who sent you that letter.

An LoC will come from a bulk litigation firm and will say "Letter of Claim" or Letter Before Claim" or something like that on it and it will give you 30 days to pay, not the 14 days that these useless cretins give you.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Hi
Now i got this warning notic of transfer to solicitors.
Any further solution?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vuS5t8WUCmRYghtFeTY0ohPZYjlQrhGv/view?usp=drivesdk

Ignore.
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You can also ignore the next set of letters you will probably receive from GCTT, which is just another knuckle dragging moron sitting at the desk next to the anal orifice who sent you that letter.