Author Topic: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement  (Read 2572 times)

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Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #15 on: »
No it doesn't give a time on the offence only the date and the location. When i went onto the PCN it showed various photos. There was 3 other vehicles parked exactly the same and probably had a PCN through. The company on the land is having massive issues as its effecting their business. There is no clear signs or line on the road to say no parking. So just making up rules to fine people.

I have just noticed the time in the photos of the car.
« Last Edit: November 19, 2025, 01:27:55 pm by Samo05 »

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #16 on: »
Or an invitation for the keeper to pay the charge?

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« Reply #17 on: »
No they want the driver to pay the charge.

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« Reply #18 on: »
Where do i sit on this please as im close to the time to pay the fine.

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« Reply #19 on: »
As soon as you mention the word "fine" they will know that you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who can be intimidated into paying out of ignorance and fear. I will give you £100 for every occurrence of the word "fine" you can show us in the correspondence you have received.

It is not a fine. It is a speculative invoice from an unregulated private parking firm for an alleged breach of contract by the driver. If you want to be gullible and think you must pay a fine, then ago ahead and waste your money. If you're thinking about the mugs discount, then you are even more gullible.

If you don't eat to pay the scammers, then follow the advice you get here.You have 33 days from the initial appeal rejection to submit a POPLA appeal. So you have until 20th December too submit it. I really don't understand why you are panicking about some imaginary deadline to "pay the fine".

Kist do a search of the forum for other recent POPLA appeals and put one together. Don't submit it before showing us what you have put in it and we can then advise you on any corrections or changes you may need.

So, there is no rush.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #20 on: »
Ok, brilliant thanks for the advice. Ill put it together and post here. Much appreciated guys.

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #21 on: »
Hi, ive since had a reply already demanding the £100 charge.

I thought i had until the 20/12/25?




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Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #22 on: »
The reminder letter does not change the POPLA deadline and does not cancel the right to use the POPLA code.

The POPLA code is valid for 33 days from the date of the rejection letter: 28 days POPLA validity plus 5 days assumed for service. So if the rejection letter is dated 17/11/2025, the code remains usable up to and including 20/12/2025. That is completely separate from whatever “pay within 14 days” wording appears on later reminders.

What CUP are doing in that reminder is just restarting their internal chase process once, in their view, 29 days have passed since the original notice. The phrases about “full payment required within 14 days to avoid further action” are standard debt-chasing language. They are not a legal cut-off and they do not remove or shorten your POPLA rights.

Under the Private Parking Single Code of Practice, once you lodge a POPLA appeal the operator must put recovery activity on hold while the appeal is being considered. They are not supposed to continue, start, or restart debt recovery or litigation while an independent appeal is outstanding. If a POPLA appeal is upheld, they must cancel the charge and cannot pursue it further.

So:

1. The reminder letter does not stop you appealing to POPLA. You still have the full 33 days from the rejection date to use the POPLA code.
2. The “further action in 14 days” is just a threat that they may escalate to debt collection or consider court, but that is stayed once a POPLA appeal is actually lodged.
3. Priority now is to get the POPLA appeal drafted and submitted before the 33-day deadline. If they or any debt collector chase you after you have submitted the POPLA appeal, that would be contrary to the PPSCoP and you can then complain.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #23 on: »
Ok, thanks. Do you have a standard appeal template that i can send to Popla please?

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #24 on: »
Just do a search of the forum for some recent POPLA appeals and put one together yourself. Just show it to us here before you submit anything so we can advise on any changes that may be necessary.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #25 on: »
What am i selecting as my appeal on popla?

If its the "i was not the driver of the car, Popla want evidence of that.

See appeal below.

I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKPC has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKPC have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #26 on: »
Don't be silly!

What am i selecting as my appeal on popla?

If its the "i was not the driver of the car, Popla want evidence of that.

There is absolutely NO legal obligation on a Keeper to identify the driver. No one has told you to lie about anything, so stop getting your knickers in a twist!

All you need to select is either that you are the Keeper or "Other". As the Keeper you are only referring to the driver, irrespective of who it was, in the third person. You do not use silly statements along the lines of "I did this or that", only "the driver did this or that". "Don't tell 'em your name Pike!"

Also, what you have provided as your appeal is just a repeat of the initial appeal. Who told you to use that?

Go search the forum for some recent POPLA appeals to get a flavour of how to put one together. Show it to us here before you submit anything do we can check it for any errors etc.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #27 on: »
I think i used this statment.

Dear CUP Enforcement,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Thanks.

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #28 on: »
Good morning, is there any help towards my appeal statement to Popla please. As i need to send this off very soon. Any help is much appreciated.

Re: Split: PCN Appeal - Trade City Romford - CUP Enforcement
« Reply #29 on: »
do a search of the forum for other recent POPLA appeals and put one together. Don't submit it before showing us what you have put in it and we can then advise you on any corrections or changes you may need.
If you show us what you have drafted so far having done the above we can offer feedback.