Finally received a reply to my complaint about the original fob-off response to the FoI and it is revealing, whilst attempting to obfuscate at the same time:
Dear B789
I am contacting you in relation to your request for an internal review concerning the response provided to FOI-0703-2526. Following your email of 29 May a review has been carried out by an independent review panel (‘the panel’) consisting of individuals who were not involved in the handling of your request.
To confirm, your original request asked for the following -
Please confirm whether the North Greenwich Station Car Park (postcode SE10 0PH), currently managed by Saba Park Services UK Ltd on behalf of TTL Properties Limited, remains subject to the TfL Railway Byelaws 2011. If the site was ever subject to those byelaws and they have since been revoked or superseded, please provide details of the revocation or modification.
Following the response to FOI-0703-2526 your subsequent email of 29 May stated -
This is an evasive and legally inadequate answer that does not address the substance of the request. The question was not whether Saba UK chooses to enforce parking under PoFA, but whether the land itself at North Greenwich Station remains subject to TfL Railway Byelaws 2011, as made under the Greater London Authority Act 1999.
My request was specific and factual. It sought:
• Confirmation of whether byelaws currently apply to the land at SE10 0PH;
• If they do not apply, whether and when they were formally revoked or superseded, and by what legal or administrative mechanism.
Your answer did not provide this. It simply restated the operator’s current enforcement choice, which is
legally irrelevant to the land’s status under PoFA 2012 Schedule 4.
For the record, unless and until TfL formally revokes its byelaws over a specific site, or unless the site is reclassified through a published legal instrument, that land remains subject to statutory control. A contractor’s self-declared reliance on civil enforcement does not alter the legal classification of the land.
I therefore request the following as part of this internal review:
1. A proper response confirming the legal status of the land, not the practices of the contractor;
2. Copies or references to any documents or orders showing revocation, disapplication or amendment of the TfL Railway Byelaws 2011 as they apply to North Greenwich Station Car Park;
3. An explanation of why my original question was not properly addressed.
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The panel have liaised with the appropriate subject matter experts and we have been unable to identify the specific information you seek in the contract that we hold with SABA UK. Additionally our legal team have liaised with SABA UK and they have also been unsuccessful in locating recorded confirmation of what you seek. Therefore on the balance of probabilities the panel agree that it’s likely the information is not held. Please accept our apologies for any inconvenience that may have been caused.
With respect of the Byelaws the contract with SABA UK states the following -
- 21. Compliance with Policies and Law21.1.2 shall provide the Services in compliance with and shall ensure that the Service Provider's Personnel comply with all requirements of all Acts of Parliament, statutory instruments, court orders, regulations, directives, European Community decisions (insofar as legally binding), bye-laws, treaties and other regulatory requirements relevant to either or both of the Service Provider's or the Authority's business, from time to time in force which are or may become applicable to the Services. The Service Provider shall promptly notify the Authority if the Service Provider is required to make any change to the Services for the purposes of complying with its obligations under this Clause 21.1.2;
SCHEDULE 9 – FORM OF COLLATERAL WARRANTY1.3 shall comply with all the requirements of any Act of Parliament, Statutory Instrument or Order or any other regulation having the force of law or bye-law and all regulatory requirements relevant to the Subcontractor's business and/or the Authority's business from time to time in force which are or may become applicable to the Subcontract Services;
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The panel hope the above information provides satisfactory clarification, however if you are dissatisfied with the internal review actions to date please do not hesitate to contact me or alternately you can refer the matter to the independent authority responsible for enforcing the Freedom of Information Act, at the following address:
Information Commissioner’s Office
Wycliffe House
Water Lane
Wilmslow
Cheshire SK9 5AF
A complaint form is also available on the ICO’s website (www.ico.org.uk).
Yours sincerely
Emma Flint
Principal Information Access Adviser
FOI Case Management Team
Transport for London
foi@tfl.gov.uk
So, what does this mean? TfL has not explicitly confirmed that the land was ever subject to the TfL Railway Byelaws 2011 or otherwise under statutory control.
Their responses:
• Avoid the historical status of the land entirely;
• Only state that “Saba UK are not subject to TfL Byelaws” (an irrelevant point about the contractor's operations, not land classification);
• Admit they have no record of any revocation, disapplication, or amendment.
This means:
• They have not confirmed that the land was ever subject to byelaws;
• But also cannot show that the land is not subject to them now.
The legal consequence of that omission is that under public law and statutory interpretation, the principle is that Byelaws remain in force until formally revoked or superseded. So if the land was ever covered by TfL Railway Byelaws (as is likely for a car park attached to a TfL station), the absence of revocation supports the presumption that the land is still under statutory control.
Therefore, the burden lies with TfL to prove that the byelaws do not apply. TfL has no documentary record revoking the application of byelaws to North Greenwich Station Car Park.
TfL and SABA have no documentation revoking the Railway Byelaws or reclassifying the land. This supports the original position: byelaws remain in force unless explicitly revoked.
They do not state the land is “relevant land” under Schedule 4 of PoFA. They merely say that SABA enforces under PoFA contractually, which (as I pointed out) is not determinative of land status.
TfL cites general legal compliance clauses from its SABA contract (Clause 21.1.2 and Schedule 9) — but these do not answer the question of whether the land itself is legally subject to byelaws. They simply say that the contractor must obey laws in general.
So, in the absence of a formal statutory instrument, a TfL resolution repealing byelaws over the land or a reclassification of the site under Schedule 4 of PoFA, the legal presumption is that North Greenwich Station Car Park remains land under statutory control.
As such:
• SABA cannot rely on PoFA to hold the registered keeper liable;
• The NtK naming SABA as creditor is non-compliant with PoFA para. 9(2)(h);
• Continued pursuit of the keeper is a breach of both the Private Parking Single Code of Practice and DVLA’s KADOE contract;
• The ICO and BPA should now be formally notified of TfL’s admission and the implications of SABA continuing enforcement against the keeper.
I have responded to Ms Flint with the following:
Re: Internal Review – FOI-0703-2526 – North Greenwich Station Car Park
Dear Ms Flint,
Thank you for your response to the internal review concerning FOI-0703-2526.
I note that the panel has not confirmed whether the land at North Greenwich Station Car Park (postcode SE10 0PH) was ever subject to the TfL Railway Byelaws 2011. However, given the car park is physically attached to a TfL-operated station, it is reasonable to presume that it was, at some stage, subject to statutory control. The fact that neither TfL nor its contractor holds any record of a formal revocation, disapplication, or legal modification of those byelaws strengthens the legal presumption that the land remains under statutory control.
The Freedom of Information Act requires a public authority to confirm or deny the existence of the requested information. The internal review outcome confirms that there is no record revoking or superseding the byelaws in relation to this land. That omission is highly significant: under settled legal principles, byelaws remain in force unless expressly repealed or amended by a competent authority.
In this context, your statement that “Saba UK are not subject to TfL Byelaws” is legally irrelevant. The issue is not whether SABA chooses to operate under PoFA, but whether the land itself is “relevant land” for the purposes of Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. That is a statutory question which cannot be determined by contractor preference or enforcement style.
This raises a serious concern: SABA UK is currently enforcing parking charges against registered keepers under PoFA 2012, on land which appears to remain under statutory control. Additionally, the Notice to Keeper issued in this case identifies SABA Park Services UK Ltd as the creditor, despite SABA’s own authorisation document confirming that TTL Properties Ltd is the landowner and creditor. These errors suggest breaches of both PoFA and the DVLA’s KADOE contract.
Thank you again for confirming that no record of revocation is held. This correspondence will be submitted to the DVLA and the Information Commissioner’s Office as part of a formal complaint regarding unlawful data processing and improper use of the PoFA framework on land presumed to remain non-relevant for statutory purposes.
Yours sincerely,
B789