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Hello,

Looking for some advice on the below PCN notice:

https://freeimage.host/i/fJ0t48g
https://freeimage.host/i/fJ0tP9a

Can I use the same approach that was successful in the below thread from last year? Or have they now updated their wording on the NtK?

https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/p-smart-parking-ok-diner/

Many thanks,

David

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Re: Smart Parking PCN - OK Diner Oswestry
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Nothing has changed, except (not so) Smart Parking are now IPC members. Even if they don't cancel it on appeal, you still go through the motions of a useless IAS appeal and then ignore all the debt recovery letters until they issue a Letter of Claim (LoC).
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Smart Parking PCN - OK Diner Oswestry
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Thank you.

I appealed on the 18th Nov but have not heard back yet.

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They have to respond to an appeal, even if only to acknowledge receipt of it, within 28 days of receipt. They have over another week to acknowledge or respond to your appeal. Patience!

No initial appeal is ever going to be successful anyway. There's no money in it for them that way.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Got the failed appeal notice at last.

https://freeimage.host/i/fRsf2hg

Based on your previous message should I take the loss at this point?

What happens after a LoC is issued?

I don't particularly want to receive threatening letters for months on end.

Thanks in advance.

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"Threatening letters"? Do you mean useless bits of paper that carry absolutely no legal weight unless you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree and easily intimidated into paying out of ignorance and fear?

Debt collectors are powerless. They are not a party to any alleged contract, they have zero standing, and they cannot take any action whatsoever. The only thing that gives their theatrically bold, red-ink letters any appearance of substance is the imagination of the uninformed motorist who assumes consequences that do not, and cannot, exist.

Ignore debt recovery letters. File them, shred them, or use them as hamster bedding — it makes no difference. They have the same legal force as takeaway menus.

And no, you absolutely do not concede just because (not so) Smart have rejected your initial appeal.

No private parking company ever accepts an initial appeal. There is no money in it for them. The business model relies on motorists being low-hanging fruit — people who panic at the first rejection letter and hand over their money out of ignorance and fear rather than understanding the process.

Here is the actual position:

  • A rejected appeal is normal, expected, and meaningless.
  • Debt collector letters are empty noise.
  • Only a proper Letter of Claim requires a response, and the forum will guide you at that stage.

You have not “lost” anything. You are simply at the predictable stage where the parking company hopes you’ll frighten yourself into paying. Don’t.

Just submit the following as your IAS appeal:

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This appeal is submitted by the registered keeper. No admission is made as to the identity of the driver. The operator bears the burden of establishing liability. They have failed to do so. The Parking Charge Notice must be cancelled for the reasons set out below.

1. The Notice to Keeper does not comply with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. The operator asserts reliance on PoFA and threatens to pursue the keeper under its provisions, yet the statutory preconditions for keeper liability have not been satisfied. The notice fails to specify any period of parking as required by paragraph 9(2)(a). ANPR timestamps of entry and exit do not constitute a period of parking and cannot prove that the vehicle was parked or stationary at any relevant time. A vehicle passing through, queueing, or circling for a space does not fall within the statutory meaning of parking. Non-compliance with paragraph 9(2)(a) extinguishes any prospect of invoking keeper liability.

2. The Notice to Keeper fails to contain the mandatory invitation prescribed by paragraph 9(2)(e). Instead of inviting the keeper either to pay the charge or to identify the driver, the document attempts to impose a compulsory requirement to provide the driver's full name and address. This is not the statutory wording, is not legally enforceable, and constitutes a misstatement of the keeper’s legal obligations. A notice that does not contain the exact statutory invitation cannot give rise to keeper liability under any circumstances. The operator’s subsequent rejection letter repeats the same misrepresentation, reinforcing its non-compliance.

3. The operator has issued contradictory statements regarding the NtK issue date. The NtK itself is dated 11 November 2025, whereas the rejection letter claims the notice was issued on 10 December 2025. These two dates cannot both be correct. If the operator cannot even state the correct issue date of its own statutory notice, it cannot invoke statutory deadlines, assert compliance with PoFA, or rely on presumed service. The unreliability of their own documents undermines every assertion they make about timing, liability, or compliance.

4. The operator has provided no evidence of any actual parking. The only material relied upon is a pair of ANPR images showing the vehicle entering and exiting the site. These images do not establish that the vehicle was parked, that it stopped, that it occupied a bay, or that any relevant terms were engaged. ANPR is incapable of proving parking. The operator must prove both the factual basis of the alleged breach and the contractual terms allegedly binding the driver. They have proved neither.

5. No evidence of signage has been produced. The operator asserts that signs are clearly displayed throughout the site but has provided no contemporaneous images, no entrance signage, no site plan, and no evidence of the driver’s proximity to any alleged contractual terms. A contract cannot be formed where terms are not communicated with adequate prominence. The operator has provided no proof that any such contractual offer was made, let alone accepted.

6. The operator has produced no evidence of landowner authority. They do not own the site and cannot issue or enforce parking charges without a valid and contemporaneous contract with the landholder. Assertions of authority are insufficient. The operator must provide the actual agreement demonstrating their right to impose charges and pursue litigation. Their silence on this issue indicates that no such authority has been evidenced.

7. The NtK contains an unlawful threat to impose an additional £10 administrative charge if payment is not made within 28 days. Such a fee is not part of the alleged contract and is not permitted under PoFA or the applicable Code of Practice. The threat to add invented sums that do not form part of the alleged agreement demonstrates that the operator is not applying contractual principles but simply inflating demands contrary to established legal requirements.

8. The operator’s correspondence repeatedly misstates the effect of PoFA by asserting that they will automatically hold the keeper liable if the keeper does not identify the driver. That is not the law. Keeper liability arises only if the operator has complied fully and strictly with Schedule 4. They have not. Their misrepresentation of statutory rights and obligations is improper and renders the charge unenforceable against the keeper.

9. The operator has failed to discharge the burden of proof. They have not proved that a contract existed, that its terms were communicated, that the vehicle was parked, that any breach occurred, or that they have the legal standing to issue charges. They have also failed to establish compliance with PoFA, meaning the keeper cannot be pursued. The absence of evidence from the operator is fatal.

In summary, the Notice to Keeper is non-compliant, the evidence is inadequate, the operator’s assertions are contradictory and legally incorrect, and no lawful basis for keeper liability exists. The operator has not provided the necessary factual or legal foundation to support the charge. The appeal must therefore be allowed and the Parking Charge Notice cancelled.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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