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No contract was entered into as the Consumer Rights Act (2015) Schedule 2 Paragraph 10 states that, "A term which has the object or effect of irrevocably binding the consumer to terms with which the consumer has had no real opportunity of becoming acquainted before the conclusion of the contract" is to be regarded as an unfair term.

In this instance the operators claim of what amounts to an 'instant contract' breaches the aforementioned paragraph of the Consumer Rights Act (2015) and is therefore an unenforceable term.




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Thanks Intercity
I will add that to the statement you kindly gave me before.  Just the point I was wanting to make = brill.

The change to "non-ANPR" isn't important then?  I thought they would have changed it to ANPR - I must not be understanding it properly.



It doesn't look like ANPR, more like stills taken from a video CCTV feed. But that's not of much importance either way.

I've cocked up submitting the appeal to IAS Arbitration. I have submitted an empty page in error.
I misunderstood the online instruction. I had not realised there was only one comment box for both reply to operator and submit to Arbitration.

I was also distracted.  A yellow banner said the site had intermittent outages on Monday evening (when I submitted it) thru to Tuesday.  I was wondering if my appeal might get lost.  Then when I tried to use the comment box I found out it would not accept copy and paste, so I was thinking how could I read my statement and type it in at the same time.  Then I misread the instruction and thought the comments box was only for reply to operator. So I pressed to Arbitration expecting to go to a screen to complete my appeal, but sadly I had pressed 'submit appeal' and there was no way of undoing it.  I did not receive an email confirmation of submission from IAS which seemed strange. I still had a day until the deadline, so I have just tried to do it again now, but it is locked to further actions and states - Awaiting Adjudication.

I'm fed up about the time spent on this by advisors on here and the help my family and friends gave me. And now I don't have a chance to send it in.  Sorry to everyone who helped.

What will it mean now?

There is an Enquiry tab. I am presently trying to send in my Appeal that way. Again the box DOES NOT ALLOW A COPY AND PASTE. A barrier for users for sure.  I am trying to at least submit it this way so I have evidence for the CCJ (just in case it gets that far). I have no idea of word length yet. They should not be so harsh with User error.  I am still in the deadline.

Previously noted on the forum: https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/private-estate/msg102156/#msg102156
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The IAS deliberately blocks normal pasting into its response box using JavaScript. This is not a technical glitch; it is done to frustrate appellants and prevent structured rebuttals. It can be bypassed easily if you know how.

The most reliable method is to disable JavaScript for the IAS page. In Chrome, open the IAS appeal page, click the padlock icon in the address bar, go to Site settings, change JavaScript to Blocked, then refresh the page. Once the page reloads, the text box will accept pasted text normally. You can paste your prepared response in full and submit it. JavaScript can be re-enabled afterwards if you wish.

If you do not want to disable JavaScript, you can paste directly into the response box using the browser’s developer tools. Right-click anywhere on the IAS page and select Inspect. In the developer panel, locate the <textarea> element that corresponds to the response box. Click inside the <textarea> content in the code view and paste your prepared text there. Close the developer panel and submit. This bypasses all front-end restrictions.

In some browsers, the IAS blocks standard paste but still allows “paste without formatting”. Try using Ctrl+Shift+V (or Cmd+Shift+V on a Mac). This occasionally works depending on browser version and IAS updates.

If all else fails, paste the text into a plain text editor such as Notepad or TextEdit set to plain text, then copy and paste the response into the IAS box in smaller chunks. Starting to type a few characters manually before pasting often defeats the script trigger. This method is slower but works.

Always keep a saved copy of your full response before submitting. After pasting, scroll through the text box carefully to confirm that nothing has been truncated. Do not refresh the page after pasting unless you have confirmed the text is safely stored elsewhere.

These steps are sufficient to defeat the IAS paste restriction and allow the full rebuttal to be submitted exactly as written.
« Last Edit: February 11, 2026, 07:25:34 am by jfollows »
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jfollows
you saved the day for my appeal submission = big thank you for sending me the way around copying and pasting into IAS text boxes.

I took your technical info to a neighbour who sorted it out so that I could copy and paste my response to IAS.  I did submit it in the end but not as Arbitration, I sent it as a response to the operator. There are reasons why = because of very unclear process. That just means there is another 8 days to wait and if the UKCPS does not reply it will automatically go to adjudication.

I was able to have a second chance to submit after an unsuccessful attempt because my message to IAS Enquiries about not having submitted my response, resulted in them re-setting my portal to allow me to submit. They even added on the day I lost and extended my deadline by a day. They did this because I was still in the deadline timescale and had a day left. 

That is a good tip for appellants: aim to reply 2 days earlier than the given deadline in case you encounter technical issues and unclear submission information.  If you have issue go to Enquiries and ask there.

I have not had an easy time in getting the second attempt response in.  In fact, it has been awful and taken far too much time.

I ended up writing a complaint to the IAS about their unclear instructions on their online portal at the point of seeking arbitration. Whether I was partly wrong or not, it was my experience and I have certainly highlighted some inaccuracies and unclear messages from them. To ensure my complaint reached the IAS, I uploaded it as an evidence document because I could not copy and paste my complaint in to their Enquiries text bod (my neighbour had already changed back my settings and their portal did not allow copy and paste again). By default, this also means that my complaint has been sent to the UKCPS because it is an evidence document. My complaint to the IAS below:

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COMPLAINT for the IAS:
the IAS online process for Appeals is not user-friendly and creates barriers for the Appellant at the point of seeking Arbitration.

1. It does not allow the user to copy and paste text in response box without changing their technical set up.

2. The comment box states 'Response to operator'. Underneath are 2 options of where to send comment: 1/ "Submit response"; 2/ "Refer the case straight to Arbitration".
I wish to give a comment for Arbitration, not to the operator. There is NO text box with a title 'Response for Arbitration'. Logically the appellant would press 'Refer the case straight to Arbitration' to insert their comment.

3. If the appellant clicks 'Refer the case straight to Arbitration' then a warning box pops up. The instructions refer to using the comment box and evidence upload on the previous screen (a box titled: 'Response to operator') without being clear enough for those seeking Arbitration. This is confusing for those seeking to give a response for Arbitration.
 
4. There are words missing in the warning box "...you must GO BACK and submit your these within your response". This does not make sense.

5. The appellant has no idea if putting their comment in the 'Response to operator' box will successfully send their comment for Arbitration. For this reason, to cover my back, I have uploaded a copy of my Appeal for Arbitration as an Evidence document.

6. If the Appellant continues past the warning pop-up message, still expecting to find a comment box for Arbitration, then they discover that there is none. Instead, their request to seek Arbitration is logged without the appellant submitting their response.  There is no way to rememdy this from the appellants live case. This happened to me and I contacted IAS through their Enquiries stating I had misunderstood their instructions and had not submitted my response for Arbitration, I provided my response for Arbitration. They replied to say they were unable to accept my response in Enquiries and they re-instated some time for me to reply through the portal because I was still within the deadline. This would have been helpful if the process was clear thereafter, it has not been.

7. On trying to submit my response for Arbitration AGAIN, I have encountered the above issues and have had to resort to uploading my Appeal as an evidence document due to unclear process.

8. If I click 'Submit response' (instead of Refer straight to Arbitration), because I have no choice but to use the 'Response to operator' box, then it does not work and gives me a screen error [2314130.220997].  I tried again and it did work.  I changed my strategy of seeking Arbitration and clicked Submit response (to operator) given the unclear process. This means that the only option I have is to insert my comment in the 'Response to operator box'; upload my response for Arbitration as an evidence document as a back-up; click 'Refer the case straight to Arbitration'; ignore the warning box and click Submit.

Please respond to my complaint.  I have also sent this complaint to IAS Enquiries.

Also uploaded: screenshot of Warning pop-up box when 'Refer the case straight to arbitration' is clicked. It has missing words and does not make sense.

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***MY ERROR IN ABOVE COMPLAINT***
In the end I clicked RESPONSE TO OPERATOR & UPLOADED my complaint to IAS via the Evidence route.
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Now I have 8 days to wait for a response from the UKCPS.  If they do not, it will go straight to arbitration.


At least I got there in the end. All words for my appeal were kindly provided from InterCity 125 and advice from jfollows and others.

It was just lucky that I remembered the subject had come up before and was able to find it. Glad it helped.