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I have received a letter from hm courts and tribunals service regarding money claim of pcn that was issued a year ago I appel and it was rejected and I respond to the letters each time that I am dependent and and unemployed and not have the money. I really not able to pay the money that was at that time 100£ and it's reached to 255£. I also explained them that when I moved to that flats on 7 of june 2024 and have the permit displayed on my screen . But I by mistake follow the parking trend in that private car park and sometime park outside the bay. From 7 of june to 18 of june I received 5 ticket. When I start receiving the tickets than I realised that I am doing wrong to follow the parking trend so after that it's almost one year I have not got any tickets and always obey the parking rules. But in all this time I monitor the parking area and noticed that the parking outside the bey is still in progress and many cars park outside the bays on daily basis, I have also taken many pictures of cars that parked outside the bays and thay not got any ticket. The other reason was having kids with me the nearest free carpark is about 200m to 250m away from my flats so some time kids mom not at home so it was difficult to carry kids in bad weather to free parking zone.

I don't know how to respond to this court letter kinldy any one help me to respond this letter I am still unemployed and not have the money to pay this fine so can I defend this letter?

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received a letter from hm courts and tribunals service regarding money claim of pcn that was issued by parking control management  (uk) ltd for parking outside the bay in private car park
Reasons the car parked outside the bays
Follow the trend in carpark there are very limited bays to park and daily peoples park cars outside the bays is very normal there.
Whenever having kids in car and bad weather's parking in near free space that is about 200m to 300 m away is difficult specifically when it's raining
Five tickets received in about 10 days of timeperiod staring from 7 of june 2024 to 18 of june 2024 afters this car never parked outside the bays it's almost one year now.
I am monitoring the carpark from one year and found that daily peoples park there cars outside the pays and its very normal there I have taken many pictures of cars that parked outside the bays.
I don't know how to defend this money claim I am dependent

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« Last Edit: June 16, 2025, 05:21:45 am by Ahsanhaider »

Are you eligible for assistance with court fees? You may be able to get help with court fees or not have to pay a fee at all, if you are on a low income or get certain welfare benefits. This is called being 'exempt' from paying court fees.

I ask, because whilst you do not have to pay anything to defend the claim, you would have to pay to make a counterclaim. If you are eligible for help with fees, then you certainly should make a counterclaim.

You can apply for help here: https://helpwithcourtfees.service.gov.uk/checklist

You can even apply for the help retrospectively.

However, even if you do not counterclaim at this time, you won't be paying a penny to anyone if you follow the advice. If you want to counterclaim, you will have to do it separately and not as a Part 20 counterclaim with the Acknowledgement of Service (AoS).

Luckily for you, the utter incompetent at Moorside Legal have filed a defective claim, as usual. With an issue date of 3rd June, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd June to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 7th July to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order and relevant transcripts that go with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send all the documents as a single PDF attachment (in the order of 'defence', 'draft order' and then the 2 'transcripts') in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of Parking Control Management UK Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

Parking Control Management UK Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant cites the cases of CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30], which are persuasive appellate decisions. In these cases, claims were struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). Transcripts of these decisions are attached to this Defence.

5. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.(1)(a). The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Failed to explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

6. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence

CEL v Chan Transcript

CPMS v Akande Transcript

If you want an editable MS Word file with everything in a single document which you can then save/export as a single PDF file when ready to send, use this:

MS Word .docx file for defence [CPR 16.4(1)(a)]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I have done the AoS online.

This is the pcn they sent me at that time it might help.
I have checked the evidence they provided on there website that are picture and the pictures time starts from 06.02 am to 06.05 am it's about only 3 minutes.  Normally there peoples park very very often for minutes to 10 minutes many peoples do this like we need to drop some food or material to home so peoples park there for some minutes and drop the food or material at there home and come back and then leave from there. I think all peoples in that flats do this. And one thing at paticulars of the claim at number 3. They written 3. The vehicle was parked in breach of the terms on C's sing (the contract), thus incurring the PCN. But there at parking spot we allocated the sing are W not C. And the bord they installed there which shows instructions is very difficult to read some of its points with human eye from some distance.

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Don't try to overthink this. The reference to "C" in the PoC are just an abbreviation of "Claimant".

Simply stating that "vehicle was parked in breach of the Terms on C's signs (the contract), thus incurring the PCN." is not stating a cause of action. CPR 16.4(1)(a) states:

"Particulars of claim must include—a concise statement of the facts on which the claimant relies."

So, what was the reason that the vehicle was in breach of the Terms on the signs? If the utter incompetents at Moorside Legal, a supposed firm of legally qualified people, can't even understand the Civil Procedure Rules (CPR), then you cannot plead a proper defence and the claim should be struck out.

It doesn't matter what you have received prior to being served with the claim. You are required to be able to plead a defence based solely on the PoC. You can't.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

One more question what is the threshold of income to eligible for free court fee?

One more question what is the threshold of income to eligible for free court fee?
https://www.gov.uk/get-help-with-court-fees
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Your income includes anything you earn before tax and any other payments you receive.

When you apply, you must report either:

your income in the last calendar month – for example, if you apply in January, you report your income in December
your average income over the last 3 calendar months - for example, if you apply in April, you report your average income between January, February and March
Report whichever income is lower.

You can get money off your fee if your reported income is:

£1,420 or less, if you’re single
£2,130 or less, if you have a partner
For each child you have, your reported income can be:

£425 more for children aged 0 to 13
£710 more for children aged 14 and over
For example, if you have a partner and two children aged 7 and 5, your reported income can be up to £2,980.

You must also have less than the maximum amount of money in savings. This is usually up to £4,250.

If you earn more, you may be able to get some money off your fee. This depends on how much your court fee is.

Check if you’re eligible using the ‘How to apply for help with fees’ guidance included with form EX160.

One more question what is the threshold of income to eligible for free court fee?

Really? It took me less than 10 seconds to Google that information:

https://www.gov.uk/get-help-with-court-fees
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

One more question what is the threshold of income to eligible for free court fee?

Really? It took me less than 10 seconds to Google that information:

https://www.gov.uk/get-help-with-court-fees
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There reason to park outside the bay is the trend at the parking site when I moved to that flats I saw peoples daily park outside the bays it's very normal there and it's still in progress. The main reason was having kids with me I have 2 kids one at that time was one year old boy and two and half years girl and my wife is working so mostly I have to carry kids with me and when there mom's not at home and bad weather conditions I can't Carry kids with me to park at nearest free carpark that is about 200 m to 300m away . So when there is no space available to park than sometimes car need to be parked near to home to safely move the kids to home in bad weather's and stay with them until there mom's comeback to home . After receiving these tickets I never parked outside the bays and carry my childern with me and park the car at nearby free carpark and than carry children’s back to home and I am not telling lie many times in winters my children’s get sick while carring them back to home from 250m away only to avoid these tickets.

And thanks all About giving information about income threshold. I do not have any income my wife has and we have 2 kids one is 2 years old boy and second is 3.5 years girl