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Re: PCN from Civil Parking Office at Sussex House (formerly Morrisons) Crawley
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This is what they have provided, please see attached.

The redacted information is all matching to the details of the registered keeper. The screenshot shows the dropdown options and then the final page shows the backend of their information. It says "Customer submitted appeal online" which is true. It then says "Liable party set to driver" but to me that does not confirm that the registered keeper selected the option driver. That could be an automatic result of the form being filled in.

As I say I was witness to the form being filled in and am sure registered keeper was selected. However we have no record of that. No email was provided with confirmation of details and we have tried logging on to the system but it provides no record of the appeal just a way to pay the PCN.

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Re: PCN from Civil Parking Office at Sussex House (formerly Morrisons) Crawley
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As you can only use the useless webform to submit your response to the operators response pack, just copy and paste this as your response:

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The operator claims that I selected “driver” during my appeal. This is categorically false. The appeal was submitted solely as the Keeper under legal advisement, and this was witnessed. The text of my appeal clearly shows that I was challenging the charge in my capacity as the Keeper. A good faith reading of the appeal would make this obvious, as it explicitly states that I am not revealing who was driving. The operator’s attempt to claim otherwise is disingenuous and appears to be an attempt to manipulate the facts in their favour.

The operator’s so-called “evidence” is nothing more than an unverifiable backend system log entry. It contains no metadata or audit trail to prove its authenticity and has likely been forged or tampered with, given the operator’s history as an untrustworthy firm of ex-clampers.

If the operator genuinely believed I had identified myself as the driver, why did they not raise this in their initial rejection letter? Their rejection explicitly treated me as the Keeper, stating: “Please note, Schedule 4 of PoFA 2012 was not referenced within the Notice to Keeper. Our client Civil Parking Office Ltd are entitled to write to the Keeper in regards to driver information.” There was no mention whatsoever that I had allegedly identified myself as the driver. This omission is critical because if they truly believed I had “outed” myself as the driver, they would have raised it immediately. The fact that this claim only appears now, at the POPLA stage, suggests desperation and bad faith on the part of the operator.

The operator’s backend log entry stating “Liable Party set to: Driver” is not proof of anything. It is a self-serving piece of evidence that could easily have been manipulated after the appeal was submitted. There is no independent verification, no metadata, and no audit trail to confirm the accuracy of this log. Even if such a selection had been made in error, this does not constitute clear evidence of driver identity. As confirmed in persuasive case law, including VCS v Edward (2023), no assumption or inference can be made about the Keeper being the driver without unequivocal evidence. The operator has failed to provide such evidence.

Furthermore, the operator’s evidence of ANPR images fails to demonstrate a parking contravention or the driver’s identity. These images merely show entry and exit times, not proof of parking, nor proof that the terms and conditions were accepted by the driver. Without evidence of a specific parking breach or driver identification, their case is baseless.

I am fully aware that POPLA’s decision is not binding on me as the appellant, and I am prepared to defend this matter in court if necessary. In a court of law, the operator would be required to produce robust evidence under strict scrutiny. Any attempts to manipulate or forge evidence would be treated very seriously by the court.

In summary:

1. The operator’s claim that I selected “driver” is categorically false and unproven.

2. A good faith reading of my appeal text makes it clear that I was challenging the charge as the Keeper and explicitly stated that I was not revealing who was driving.

3. Their so-called “evidence” is unreliable, unverifiable, and likely manipulated.

4. If they genuinely believed I had identified myself as the driver, this would have been raised in their rejection letter, but it was not.

5. Their ANPR evidence fails to prove a parking contravention or identify the driver.

6. As the Keeper, I deny any liability for this charge.

I request that POPLA upholds my appeal and cancels this Parking Charge Notice.
« Last Edit: January 28, 2025, 07:28:01 pm by b789 »
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Re: PCN from Civil Parking Office at Sussex House (formerly Morrisons) Crawley
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If there's space, I'd be minded to add words to the effect that a good faith reading of the text of the appeal would make clear that the appellant was challenging the charge in their capacity as the keeper, and contains an explicit statement that they are not revealing who was driving.

Re: PCN from Civil Parking Office at Sussex House (formerly Morrisons) Crawley
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Updated to include that very valid point by @DWMB2 above.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

After waiting 111 days to hear back from POPLA the appeal has been successful.

The rationale from the assessor:

"I am allowing this appeal, with my reasoning outlined below: By issuing a parking charge notice to the appellant the operator has implied that a breach of the terms and conditions has occurred. When an appeal comes to POPLA, the burden of proof begins with a parking operator to demonstrate that the appellant has breached the restrictions of the car park as they claim. The Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA) 2012 is a law that allows parking operators to transfer the liability to the registered keeper in the event that the driver or hirer is not identified. Parking operators must follow certain rules including warning the registered keeper that they will be liable for the charge if the parking operator is not provided with the name and address of the driver. In this case, the PCN does not mention this and there has been no admittance of driving by the appellant. Therefore, the parking operator has failed to transfer the liability onto the registered keeper. I note that the operator has provided a screenshot of the system, showing that the liable party was set to driver within the online appeal. The appellant has disputed this within their comments and stated that there is no metadata evidence to show that this was their appeal. I can also see that the appellant’s text within the appeal, clearly states that they were appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle. In this case, I cannot be satisfied that the snippet of information was from when the appellant’s appeal was submitted as they have not provided any identifiable information from when the appeal was made to show that it was put forward by the appellant. The appellant has raised other grounds in their appeal, but as I am allowing the appeal, it is not necessary for me to address these."

Thanks for all your help @b789 and @DWMB2
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Excellent result.

We give POPLA a good bit of stick (usually deserved) on here, but credit where it's due, this is a good and fair-minded assessment from the assessor in this case.

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You now have grounds for a complaint to the DVLA, based on the operator’s conduct in this case.

Here’s why:

1. Misuse or Misrepresentation of Data Accessed via the DVLA

Private parking companies are granted access to DVLA vehicle keeper data under very strict conditions — namely, they must:

• Use the data only for the purpose of pursuing legitimate parking charges.
• Comply with the law, including the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA).
• Act truthfully and transparently when pursuing charges.

In your case:

• The parking operator issued a non-PoFA Notice to Keeper, meaning they could only pursue the driver, not the Keeper.
• Despite this, they pursued you — the Keeper — and then later falsely claimed that you had identified yourself as the driver, using unverifiable backend data.
• They attempted to construct a false narrative to mislead POPLA by using internal system notes that POPLA rightly rejected as unverified and inconsistent.

This conduct raises serious concerns about whether the operator is:

• Abusing their DVLA access by misusing Keeper data when they know they cannot lawfully pursue the Keeper.
• Failing to meet the "reasonable cause" requirement for accessing Keeper data under Regulation 27 of the Road Vehicles (Registration and Licensing) Regulations 2002.

2. Relevant Precedent for DVLA Complaints

The DVLA has, in the past, sanctioned operators for:

• Pursuing Keeper liability without complying with PoFA.
• Making misleading claims about liability.
• Using DVLA data when there was no legal basis to pursue the Keeper.

If a parking company accesses data and then knowingly misrepresents the legal position or falsely claims that a Keeper identified themselves as the driver — when the written appeal explicitly denies that — this is a breach the terms of their DVLA KADOE (Keeper at Date of Event) contract.

So, you have solid grounds to complain. The operator used DVLA Keeper data despite knowing they could not rely on PoFA, then tried to misrepresent the status of the appellant in bad faith. That is misuse of DVLA data access, and it undermines the purpose of the KADOE contract. A complaint could contribute to regulatory action or even suspension of DVLA access if part of a pattern.

Here’s how to make a DVLA complaint:

• Go to: https://contact.dvla.gov.uk/complaints
• Select: “Making a complaint or compliment about the Vehicles service you have received”
• Enter your personal details, contact details, and vehicle details
• Use the text box to summarise your complaint or insert a covering note
• You will then be able to upload a file (up to 19.5 MB) — this can be your full complaint or supporting evidence
That’s it.

The DVLA is required to record, investigate and respond to every complaint about a private parking company. If everyone who encounters a breach took the time to submit a complaint, we might finally see the DVLA take meaningful action—whether that means curtailing or removing KADOE access altogether.

For the text part of the complaint the webform could use the following:

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I am submitting a formal complaint against Civil Parking Office Ltd, an IPC Accredited Operator with DVLA KADOE access, for breaching the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) after obtaining my personal data.

While the Operator may have had reasonable cause at the time of their KADOE request, their subsequent misuse of my data—through conduct that contravenes the PPSCoP—renders that use unlawful. The PPSCoP forms an integral part of the DVLA’s governance framework for data access by private parking firms. Continued access is conditional on compliance.

The DVLA, as data controller, is obliged under UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018 to investigate and take enforcement action when data is misused following release. This complaint is not about whether the data was obtained lawfully at the outset, but whether its subsequent use breached the terms under which it was provided.

I have prepared a supporting statement setting out the nature of the breach and the Operator’s actions, and I request a full investigation into this matter. I have attached the supporting document.

Please acknowledge receipt and confirm the reference number for this complaint.

Then you could upload the following as a PDF file for the formal complaint itself:

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SUPPORTING STATEMENT

Complaint to DVLA – Breach of KADOE Contract and PPSCoP

Operator name: Civil Parking Office Ltd
Date of PCN issue: [Insert date of PCN]
Vehicle registration: [Insert your VRM]

I am submitting this complaint to report a misuse of my personal data by Civil Parking Office Ltd, who obtained my keeper details from the DVLA under the KADOE (Keeper At Date Of Event) contract.

Although the parking company may have had reasonable cause to request my data initially, the way they used that data afterwards amounts to unlawful processing. This is because they acted in breach of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP), which forms part of the framework that regulates how parking companies must behave once they have received keeper data from the DVLA.

The KADOE contract makes clear that keeper data may only be used to pursue an unpaid parking charge in line with the Code of Practice. If a parking company fails to comply with the PPSCoP after receiving DVLA data, their use of that data becomes unlawful, as they are no longer using it for a permitted purpose.

In this case, Civil Parking Office Ltd breached the PPSCoP in the following ways:

• They issued a Notice to Keeper that was not compliant with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), meaning they had no legal basis to pursue the Keeper if the driver was not identified.
• Despite this, they pursued me as the Keeper without evidence of who was driving.
• When challenged, they later claimed—falsely and without any reliable evidence—that I had identified myself as the driver during my appeal.
• They submitted backend system notes to POPLA as “proof” that I had selected the “driver” option, despite providing no metadata or verifiable audit trail to support this claim.
• Their own initial appeal rejection made no mention of me identifying as the driver, confirming that they had treated me as the Keeper at that time.
• Their behaviour was found to be misleading and lacking in evidence by the POPLA assessor, who upheld my appeal.

The POPLA assessor stated:

I can also see that the appellant’s text within the appeal clearly states that they were appealing as the registered keeper of the vehicle... I cannot be satisfied that the snippet of information was from when the appellant’s appeal was submitted as they have not provided any identifiable information from when the appeal was made to show that it was put forward by the appellant.

These actions demonstrate a serious breach of the PPSCoP and a misuse of DVLA data. The operator’s attempt to misrepresent my status and pursue the charge in bad faith shows a clear disregard for the standards required under the Code. As a result, Civil Parking Office Ltd is no longer entitled to use the keeper data they obtained from the DVLA, because the purpose for which it was provided—lawful pursuit of a parking charge under the Code—no longer applies.

The DVLA remains the Data Controller for the data it releases under KADOE, and is therefore responsible for ensuring that personal data is not misused by third parties. I am therefore asking the DVLA to investigate this breach and to take appropriate action under the terms of the KADOE contract.

This may include:

• Confirming that a breach has occurred
• Taking enforcement action against the operator
• Suspending or terminating their KADOE access if warranted

I have attached relevant supporting material with this statement. Please confirm receipt and provide a reference for this complaint. I am also happy to provide further information if required.

Name: [INSERT YOUR NAME]
Date: [INSERT DATE]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I am submitting a formal complaint against Civil Parking Office Ltd, an IPC Accredited Operator with DVLA KADOE access, for breaching the Private Parking Single Code of Practice (PPSCoP) after obtaining my personal data.

While the Operator may have had reasonable cause at the time of their KADOE request, their subsequent misuse of my data—through conduct that contravenes the PPSCoP—renders that use unlawful. The PPSCoP forms an integral part of the DVLA’s governance framework for data access by private parking firms. Continued access is conditional on compliance.

The DVLA, as data controller, is obliged under UK GDPR and the Data Protection Act 2018 to investigate and take enforcement action when data is misused following release. This complaint is not about whether the data was obtained lawfully at the outset, but whether its subsequent use breached the terms under which it was provided.

I have prepared a supporting statement setting out the nature of the breach and the Operator’s actions, and I request a full investigation into this matter. I have attached the supporting document.

Please acknowledge receipt and confirm the reference number for this complaint.
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My bad. @jjs457, please correct accordingly.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain