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I have received a parking notice for dropping my daughter off at Leeds Railway Station in what is described as a 'no stopping' zone. I stopped for around a minute to let her out of the car. Although aware that the layout of the station access had changed to reduce the issue of people waiting for longer periods outside the station, I was not aware that stopping to drop off was completely prohibited. I did not see any obvious signage and although it could be argued that the road markings suggest no stopping - these are obscured by the red and white barriers in the attached photos.

I have since revisited the road and discovered there are 2 signs on the approach to the area - these can be seen in the attached photos. However, these signs are next to a mini-roundabout and a pedestrian crossing further down the road. There is no signage close to where I stopped. I would also argue when viewed alongside the blue map of drop off point etc that this could be seen as confusing.

All photos and copy of the parking notice attached - I would be grateful for any advice on whether this is worth appealing etc.

(Having got to the end of this post I don't seem to have an option to attach any documents?)

many thanks in advance.  :)
« Last Edit: September 05, 2025, 06:40:52 pm by bushdoctor »

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Re: Leeds Railway Station UKCPS No Stopping Parking Charge
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(Having got to the end of this post I don't seem to have an option to attach any documents?)
READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide

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Re: Leeds Railway Station UKCPS No Stopping Parking Charge
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Thanks for the steer  :) - I've uploaded the photos / scan at the url below - welcome any advice -once again thanks in advance :-)

https://imgur.com/a/rM3e3EN

Re: Leeds Railway Station UKCPS No Stopping Parking Charge
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Of course you appeal it. They have no idea who themselves is and only the driver can be liable. There is no legal obligation on the known Keeper to identify the unknown (to them) driver to an unregulated private parking firm.

Their Notice to Keeper (NtK) even says right at the top that they are no relying on PoFA to gold them keeper liable. So, you appeal, ONLY as the Keeper with the following:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. UKCPS has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKCPS have no hope at IAS nor should you try and litigate the matter, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Leeds Railway Station UKCPS No Stopping Parking Charge
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Thank you so much, really appreciate your help. 😀

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Hi

Thanks again for previous advice. I appealed the ticket described below and have received a letter stating the appeal was unsuccessful. The letter is attached at the link below. I'd be very grateful for any further advice in light of this. Should I appeal to the IAS, noting if unsuccessful, the full £100 will be payable, rather than the £60 'discounted' rate? Many thanks in advance :-)

https://imgur.com/a/tlNsSpj

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You will pay £0 if you follow our advice, but it will take time.
First step, IAS because it will cost UKCPS £23, and they are also likely to reject your appeal.
Then they start court proceedings to frighten you into paying, but if you follow the advice here they’ll eventually give up. It’s about who blinks first.

Also understand that UKCPS and their brethren lie, they deliberately ignored the substantive point in your appeal, because they want your money.

If you follow the advice here you will pay £0, not £60 nor £100, with a 99% likelihood. Search the forum for similar cases if you want. The ‘discount’ is just one tactic they use to frighten you into paying. Your money, your choice of course.
« Last Edit: September 26, 2025, 02:50:15 pm by jfollows »

Re: Leeds Railway Station UKCPS No Stopping Parking Charge
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Any initial appeal is rejected by these unregulated ex-clamper firms. Throughout this process they are hoping you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who can be intimidated into paying up out of ignorance and fear.

They will process this all the way up to county court claim in the hope you will capitulate. They will not let it go as far as a hearing because they know they would receive a spanking from the court. As long as the driver is not identified, and the only way they would know the identity of the driver is if you, the Keeper, blabs it to them. You are under no legal obligation to identify the driver to an unregulated private parking firm. All you have to do is refer to the driver in the third person. No "I did this or that", only "the driver did this or that".

For now, you appeal to the IAS with the following:

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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability for this parking charge and appeal in full.

The parking operator bears the burden of proof. It must establish that a contravention occurred, that a valid contract was formed between the operator and the driver, and that it has lawful authority to operate and issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) in its own name. I therefore require the operator to provide the following:

1. Strict proof that the Notice to Keeper complies with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), if the operator is attempting to rely on keeper liability. Any failure to comply with the mandatory wording or timelines in Schedule 4 of PoFA renders keeper liability unenforceable. For example, if the land is under statutory control, such as a train station that is covered by byelaws, it cannot be relevant land for the purpose of PoFA.

2. Strict proof of clear, prominent, and adequate signage that was in place on the date in question, at the exact location of the alleged contravention. This must include a detailed site plan showing the placement of each sign and legible images of the signs in situ. The operator must demonstrate that signage was visible, legible, and compliant with the IPC Code of Practice that was valid at the time of the alleged contravention, including requirements relating to font size, positioning, and the communication of key terms.

3. Strict proof of a valid, contemporaneous contract or lease flowing from the landowner that authorises the operator to manage parking, issue PCNs, and pursue legal action in its own name. I refer the operator and the IAS assessor to Section 14 of the PPSCoP (Relationship with Landowner), which clearly sets out mandatory minimum requirements that must be evidenced before any parking charge may be issued on controlled land.

In particular, Section 14.1(a)–(j) requires the operator to have in place written confirmation from the landowner which includes:

• the identity of the landowner,
• a boundary map of the land to be managed,
• applicable byelaws,
• the duration and scope of authority granted,
• detailed parking terms and conditions including any specific permissions or exemptions,
• the means of issuing PCNs,
• responsibility for obtaining planning and advertising consents,
• and the operator’s obligations and appeal procedure under the Code.

These requirements are not optional. They are a condition precedent to issuing a PCN and bringing any associated action. Accordingly, I put the operator to strict proof of compliance with the entirety of Section 14 of the PPSCoP. Any document that contains redactions must not obscure the above conditions. The document must also be dated and signed by identifiable persons, with evidence of their authority to act on behalf of the parties to the agreement. The operator must provide an agreement showing clear authorisation from the landowner for this specific site.

4. Strict proof that the enforcement mechanism (e.g. ANPR or manual patrol) is reliable, synchronised, maintained, and calibrated regularly. The operator must prove the vehicle was present for the full duration alleged and not simply momentarily on site, potentially within a permitted consideration or grace period as defined by the PPSCoP.

5. Strict proof that the NtK was posted in time for it to have been given within the relevant period. The PPSCoP section 8.1.2(d) Note 2 requires that the operator must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

6. The IAS claims that its assessors are “qualified solicitors or barristers.” Yet there is no way to verify this. Decisions are unsigned, anonymised, and unpublished. There is no transparency, no register of assessors, and no way for a motorist to assess the legal credibility of the individual supposedly adjudicating their appeal. If the person reading this really is legally qualified, they will know that without strict proof of landowner authority (VCS v HMRC [2013] EWCA Civ 186), no claim can succeed. They will also know that clear and prominent signage is a prerequisite for contract formation (ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67), and that keeper liability under PoFA is only available where strict statutory conditions are met.

If the assessor chooses to overlook these legal requirements and accept vague assertions or redacted documents from the operator, that will speak for itself—and lend further weight to the growing concern that this appeals service is neither independent nor genuinely legally qualified.

In short, I dispute this charge in its entirety and require full evidence of compliance with the law, industry codes of practice, and basic contractual principles.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: Leeds Railway Station UKCPS No Stopping Parking Charge
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Thank you so much again ! Really appreciate it - will keep you posted n progress ! :-)