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strawberrydoll

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I have received a PCN of £100 from "Smart Parking Ltd" addressed to me and sent to my address for overstaying at a car park in Hereford on 19/08/2024. The written reg on the paper is mine, but the images they've taken shows a reg that is not mine (but is somewhat close) and has a picture of what seems to be a Ford SUV which I do not own, mine is an Audi hatchback.

To be clear, I have never been to the car park in question, they seem to have misread the registration (mine is XK69 XXX and the reg of the image they've taken is XC59 XXX), so I thought it would be as easy as calling them and telling them they have the wrong person/car and to please stop contacting me and delete my personal details from their system, but the person on the line told me I would need to fill out their appeals form online to get them to "consider my appeal". The person on the line was extremely rude and unhelpful and tried to prod me into just paying the fine as the "easiest option for me and would be the cheaper £60 option right now" but I refused, is it best to fill out all my personal details on their online appeals form or should I send them a letter? I could use some advice, thank you in advance.

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As a general rule, where there is a dispute over money, corresponding in writing is generally preferable to by phone, as you have a record of exactly what has been discussed.

I would ordinarily recommend pointing the misread out but as this is Smart Parking, the quickest way is probably a template appeal. Can you show us the notice you have received?

It will almost certainly not meet the requirements to hold the registered keeper liable, and if you appeal as the registered keeper with the below, they will almost certainly cancel the charge.

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,

Do please show us the notice before you appeal, I don't like recommending an appeal without double checking it is appropriate. You'll need to use a third party site like Imgur to upload the notice.

You could if you wish add a line into that appeal before the main point, pointing out that it is not your vehicle and their faulty ANPR has led to them accessing your details without reasonable cause.
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You can also threaten them with a lawsuit for damages as they have illegally obtained your personal data in breach of the KADOE contract. By failing to perform a manual quality control check on the ANPR photographic evidence, they are in breach of their AOS Code of Practice which nullifies their KADOE contract.

Threaten to sue them for £250 for breaching your GDPR and tell them you’ll accept £100 if they are prepared to settle within 14 days of receipt of the letter.

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Article 12 of the UK GDPR legally requires data controllers to store and process personal data accurately: clearly, any data controller issuing an invoice to you because it has wrongly recorded that you parked in breach of the alleged contract between you and the landowner (or, as in this case, an agent of the landowner) is processing your personal data unlawfully.

The precedents for claiming damages and compensation for such unlawful processing are the decisions of the Court of Appeal in Zeta Jones & Douglas v Hello! Magazine [2003] EWHC 786 and Halliday v Creation Consumer Finance Ltd (CCF) [2013] EWCA Civ 333, both being binding on all County Courts in England and Wales.  In the latter claim, Mr Halliday was awarded compensation of £750 at what the Court regarded was the lowest level of award, and although this was a claim under Section 13 of the Data Protection Act 1998, similar provisions - amended to take account of a decision by the EU Grand Chamber that the 1998 Act did not properly implement EU law into UK domestic legislation - replaced the old Section 13 provisions with Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018.

In short, you ought to give 21 days notice (the pre-action protocol only really requires 14 days but hey, you can be charitable!) to the data controller of your intention to seek (say) £100 nominal damages and compensation under Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018 for their unlawful processing of your personal data: you could say that you will not file your claim with the County Court if they confirm in writing that all references to this alleged debt have been deleted within (say) 14 days. Clearly mark your letter as a "Letter before County Court proceedings".

Anyone who is fairly confident can claim as a litigant-in-person in Part 27 proceedings in the County Court (commonly but wrongly described as "the Small Claims Court").  Each party is responsible for their own legal costs whether they win or lose and the claim for £100 can be issued online for a fee of £35 at moneyclaimonline.gov.uk which also gives useful advice if you want to have a look at what is involved.  Your claim will automatically be listed as being for a total of £135, i.e. the successful party gets their Court fees back.
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As a general rule, where there is a dispute over money, corresponding in writing is generally preferable to by phone, as you have a record of exactly what has been discussed.

I would ordinarily recommend pointing the misread out but as this is Smart Parking, the quickest way is probably a template appeal. Can you show us the notice you have received?

It will almost certainly not meet the requirements to hold the registered keeper liable, and if you appeal as the registered keeper with the below, they will almost certainly cancel the charge.

Dear Sirs,

I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Yours,

Do please show us the notice before you appeal, I don't like recommending an appeal without double checking it is appropriate. You'll need to use a third party site like Imgur to upload the notice.

You could if you wish add a line into that appeal before the main point, pointing out that it is not your vehicle and their faulty ANPR has led to them accessing your details without reasonable cause.

Thank you so much for your fast and friendly response! I have uploading the letter below- sorry it took me a moment.




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You can also threaten them with a lawsuit for damages as they have illegally obtained your personal data in breach of the KADOE contract. By failing to perform a manual quality control check on the ANPR photographic evidence, they are in breach of their AOS Code of Practice which nullifies their KADOE contract.

Threaten to sue them for £250 for breaching your GDPR and tell them you’ll accept £100 if they are prepared to settle within 14 days of receipt of the letter.

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Article 12 of the UK GDPR legally requires data controllers to store and process personal data accurately: clearly, any data controller issuing an invoice to you because it has wrongly recorded that you parked in breach of the alleged contract between you and the landowner (or, as in this case, an agent of the landowner) is processing your personal data unlawfully.

The precedents for claiming damages and compensation for such unlawful processing are the decisions of the Court of Appeal in Zeta Jones & Douglas v Hello! Magazine [2003] EWHC 786 and Halliday v Creation Consumer Finance Ltd (CCF) [2013] EWCA Civ 333, both being binding on all County Courts in England and Wales.  In the latter claim, Mr Halliday was awarded compensation of £750 at what the Court regarded was the lowest level of award, and although this was a claim under Section 13 of the Data Protection Act 1998, similar provisions - amended to take account of a decision by the EU Grand Chamber that the 1998 Act did not properly implement EU law into UK domestic legislation - replaced the old Section 13 provisions with Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018.

In short, you ought to give 21 days notice (the pre-action protocol only really requires 14 days but hey, you can be charitable!) to the data controller of your intention to seek (say) £100 nominal damages and compensation under Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018 for their unlawful processing of your personal data: you could say that you will not file your claim with the County Court if they confirm in writing that all references to this alleged debt have been deleted within (say) 14 days. Clearly mark your letter as a "Letter before County Court proceedings".

Anyone who is fairly confident can claim as a litigant-in-person in Part 27 proceedings in the County Court (commonly but wrongly described as "the Small Claims Court").  Each party is responsible for their own legal costs whether they win or lose and the claim for £100 can be issued online for a fee of £35 at moneyclaimonline.gov.uk which also gives useful advice if you want to have a look at what is involved.  Your claim will automatically be listed as being for a total of £135, i.e. the successful party gets their Court fees back.

Thank you also! Would adding this create any more of an issue? It would be nice to be compensated for the stress they've caused, but I don't want prolong the issue further and just be done with it.
I appreciate your message very much.

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Notice looks as expected.

Whether you decide to sue them or not is your call, it's your personal data and your time.

Out of interest, how clear are the images of the plate on the notice? I'm asking to rule out the possibility that your plates have been cloned, which is rare but does happen.

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Notice looks as expected.

Whether you decide to sue them or not is your call, it's your personal data and your time.

Out of interest, how clear are the images of the plate on the notice? I'm asking to rule out the possibility that your plates have been cloned, which is rare but does happen.

Thank you.

The plate is quite clear, I also thought my plates may have been cloned when I first saw the letter but it is not mine, it does seem to just have been read incorrectly. The "5" is especially very clear on their photo, where as on my plate it is a "6".

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It is your GDPR that has been breached. You will not be paying a penny to (not so) Smart. You have a valid claim for compensation and damages for breach of GDPR.

If you’re happy to simply let Smart off the hook, your choice. Personally, I would not be so formal in my appeal and I would highlight why they cannot pursue the keeper under any assumption they were also the driver.

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Smart Parking has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. Smart have no hope at POPLA, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
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Any appeal that makes mention of the fact they don't bother with PoFA will see them cancel.

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I have to say I feel like I'm out of my depth a little, but why not give it a shot? Here's the template I've written

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Letter before County Court proceedings

Dear Sirs,
I have received your Parking Charge Notice (Ref: XXXXXXXXX) for vehicle registration mark XXXX XXX, in which you allege that the driver has incurred a parking charge. I note from your correspondence that you are not seeking to hold me liable as the registered keeper, under Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 ("The Act"). You have chosen not to issue a Notice to Keeper in accordance with The Act, and it is now too late for you to do so.

There is no obligation for me to name the driver and I will not be doing so. I am therefore unable to help you further with this matter, and look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled. If you choose to decline this appeal, you must issue a POPLA code.

Furthermore, you have unlawfully obtained my personal data from The DVLA which, as a start, is in breach of your KADOE contract. I have never entered your car park and by failing to perform a manual quality control check on the ANPR photographic evidence, you are in breach of their AOS Code of Practice 22.2 which nullifies your KADOE contract. I intend to submit a record of this incident to the Information Commissioner's Office, DVLA and KADOE, as you have threatened a parking charge to the incorrect address and vehicle, failing to review that the car in your photo has the registration mark “XXXX XXX”, a BLUE FORD and you have sent your parking charge letter using the personal details unlawfully obtained for the registered keeper of the mark “XXXX XXX”, a BLACK AUDI, myself.

I am seeking £250 nominal damages and compensation under Article 12 of the UK GDPR and Section 168 of the Data Protection Act 2018 for your unlawful processing of my personal data. I am willing to accept a payment of £100 if a) the amount is settled within 14 days of the receipt of this letter and b) all of personal data and any copies are swiftly and permanently removed from your systems within the next 14 days. Please make a valid, current cheque payable to [my name] for the above amount. I intend to start County Court proceedings if this request is ignored, and you may be further liable to Court costs.

Yours,
[my name]

I'll post it out on Monday and keep you both updated. Thanks so much for all the help!

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You might want to write to them with your proposed resolution before leaping straight in to a Letter before County Court proceedings. The courts expect you to treat court as a last resort, not the first thing you do when you have a dispute.

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You might want to write to them with your proposed resolution before leaping straight in to a Letter before County Court proceedings. The courts expect you to treat court as a last resort, not the first thing you do when you have a dispute.

Thank you again, I've toned it down massively and removed any mention of court.

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You write to them separately with a complaint about yourGDPR data breach. If they don’t respond, you can send them a Letter or Claim. Give them a tease of their own medicine.
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You write to them separately with a complaint about yourGDPR data breach. If they don’t respond, you can send them a Letter or Claim. Give them a tease of their own medicine.

Understood, I will be sending them seperately on Monday. Thank you again for your help.

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In Writing post send  1st class with free certificate of posting at a Post Office.