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The driver paid the parking fee via contactless payment. The machine confirms that the car registration before payment is correct, but after payment the machine displayed an error message stating that payment had not been taken. However, the driver’s banking app showed that the payment had gone through at 14:19. The driver found this odd but wasn’t too worried, knowing there was proof of payment.

Lo and behold, a PCN later arrived. The driver contacted their bank to confirm that the payment had indeed left the account at 14:19 on the day in question, which the bank verified. To obtain the precise transaction time (which doesn’t appear on a standard statement), the driver had to speak with the fraud department. They suggested calling Parkmaven to explain the situation, saying this kind of issue happens regularly.

Unfortunately, no customer service number could be found. The driver submitted an online appeal to Parkmaven with a screenshot of the bank statement attached, but received the appeal decision letter as an email attachment instead.







« Last Edit: October 09, 2025, 03:28:38 pm by zexx »

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So they want to charge you £20 due to a fault on their machine?

LOL

I know, right! lol

Cheeky Monkeys

On a serious note...

I notice that their letter never refers to the registration mark which is allocated to your payment?



Imagine the situation;

You run a parking operation at a particular car park.

At the end of each trading day you are left with three lists;

1. A list of customers (VRMs) which tie up with payment details (95%+)

2. A small list of VRMs with either no payment details or insufficient payment

3. A small list of payments not connected to any VRM


There never seems to be any attempt from the parking companies to examine list 3.
This is not by accident.
You could write back and mention the elephant in the room - "Please tell me the VRM which WAS linked to my payment rather than telling me the ones which weren't?"
You could also ask, "If my payment was taken in error then why have you made no attempt to refund it?"

The fact is that they probably know it was a machine error. How else could you get a payment onto their system without the system registering some kind of VRM? I don't know many machines which will process a payment without taking some kind of VRM entry even if that entry is one character.

As previously mentioned, Parkmaven appear to be holding you responsible for the failure of their machine. This would never hold up in a court hearing.
 
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Thank you Intercity. I sent this via contact us at parkmaven.com:

Dear ParkMaven Appeals Department, Thank you for your email dated 02/10/2025. You state that there is no record of a matching vehicle registration number for my payment on 14/08/2025, yet you do not specify which VRM was associated with the payment that your system processed. Please confirm: The VRM recorded against the payment I made at the site on 14/08/2025, as evidenced by my bank statement. If no VRM was recorded, please explain how your payment system was able to accept and process payment without a VRM entry. If the payment was taken in error (i.e. not linked to any vehicle), please explain why no refund has been issued. I remain of the view that this was a system or machine error, and that I made payment in good faith for parking at 17&Central Walthamstow. Under the circumstances, holding me liable for a fault in your equipment would be unreasonable and would not stand up to scrutiny at POPLA or in court. I look forward to your clarification. Yours faithfully, M * *****
« Last Edit: October 12, 2025, 01:22:51 pm by zexx »
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ParkMaven Support

Maricar (ParkMaven)

16 Oct 2025, 19:02 BST
Hi ** ********,
 
Thank you for your email and for bringing your concerns to our attention.
 
We have carefully reviewed your query and would like to provide the requested clarifications regarding the payment issue.
 
As mentioned in our previous correspondence, we were unable to find a matching vehicle registration number (VRM) in our records for the payment made on 14/08/2025.
 
 Our system relies on an accurate VRM being entered at the time of the transaction to validate the parking session. Unfortunately, we did not find a matching entry for the VRM E20OMG at the time of the contravention.
 
To address your specific concern regarding how the payment machine works: Our payment system does not prompt users if an incorrect VRM is entered.
 
The machine will accept any VRM entered, whether it is correct or incorrect, without alerting the user to an error. This is why, if the VRM entered was incorrect or incomplete, the payment may have been processed, but could not be linked to the specific parking session. Without the correct VRM entry, the system cannot validate the payment for that vehicle, which led to the issuance of the parking charge.
 
Regarding your question about why no refund was issued: Since no correct VRM was recorded, the payment could not be properly assigned to the parking session, and as a result, the parking charge was issued.
 
While we acknowledge the payment reflected in your bank statement, please understand that a bank statement alone does not confirm that the payment was linked to your vehicle or that the correct VRM was entered at the time of the transaction.
 
As previously stated, we are willing to reduce the charge to £20 if paid within 14 days from the date of the letter. This is being offered as a gesture of goodwill, in recognition of your effort to demonstrate payment.
 
If you do not agree with our decision, you have the option to appeal to POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals). The POPLA code for this case is 5752755356, and their decision will be final.
 
We hope this provides the clarity you were seeking, and if you choose to proceed with a POPLA appeal, please ensure it is submitted within the given time frame.
 

Kind Regards,

Maricar

Pay or appeal your PCN here

*****   ****

12 Oct 2025, 12:37 BST

Name: ***** ******

Email: **********

Vrn: *** ***

PcnRef: *************

Reason: Technical Issue

Comment: Dear ParkMaven Appeals Department, Thank you for your email dated 02/10/2025. You state that there is no record of a matching vehicle registration number for my payment on 14/08/2025, yet you do not specify which VRM was associated with the payment that your system processed. Please confirm: The VRM recorded against the payment I made at the site on 14/08/2025, as evidenced by my bank statement. If no VRM was recorded, please explain how your payment system was able to accept and process payment without a VRM entry. If the payment was taken in error (i.e. not linked to any vehicle), please explain why no refund has been issued. I remain of the view that this was a system or machine error, and that I made payment in good faith for parking at 17&Central Walthamstow. Under the circumstances, holding me liable for a fault in your equipment would be unreasonable and would not stand up to scrutiny at POPLA or in court. I look forward to your clarification. Yours faithfully, ** **** ******

 
   
Received a parking charge notice?
   
Pay your PCN
 
   

ParkMaven, Kemp House 160, City Road, London, EC1V 2NX

Unbelievable!

So they still do not answer your question, namely; what VRM is actually attached to my payment.

Nor do they answer about the refund, instead they go off and answer a completely different question.

Can you see how desperate they are to maintain their narrative?

Write to them again - keep it simple - ask for the VRM which is allocated to your payment.
Or
If you go the POPLA route, ask POPLA to gather that information.

POPLA won't "gather" anything. POPLA is an independent business that is paid by the BPA members to assess secondary appeals. POPLA does not make any rules or tell BPA members what they must do.

POPLA is meaningless unless they accept the motorists appeal, in which case, the operator must cancel the PCN. If they do not accept the appeal, it is not binding on the appellant and can be ignored.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I will reply this to parkmaven:

Dear Parkaven Appeals Team,

Further to your reply dated 16 October 2025, please confirm which vehicle registration mark (VRM) your system recorded against the payment made on 14 August 2025 at 14:19 at 17&Central Walthamstow, as evidenced by my bank statement.

If no VRM was recorded, please confirm this explicitly.

I require this information to submit an accurate appeal to POPLA. Failure to provide it will indicate that no reliable VRM record exists, which I will draw to POPLA’s attention.

Yours faithfully,

****  ****
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ParkMaven Support

28 Oct 2025, 10:28 GMT

Hi M** *****,     

Thank you for your email.

As previously advised, our system relies on a matching vehicle registration number entry to validate parking sessions and link payments to vehicles. All payment records from the date of the incident, including any partial or incomplete entries, were carefully reviewed. Unfortunately, we were unable to find any similar vehicle registration number entries that could be linked to the vehicle in question.

As your appeal was declined, you have now reached the end of our internal appeals process.

If you still believe the parking charge NEW231553765377 was issued incorrectly, we invite you to appeal to POPLA following the instructions in the attached letter.

POPLA are an independent appeals service who review the merits of your appeal and make an ultimate decision on whether or not your appeal should be upheld.

Please note, until an appeal is received with POPLA, your appeal will not be placed on hold as a result of this email.

For absolute clarity, following your unsuccessful appeal, you have been offered to pay a reduced rate of £20 until 15/10/2025. If you submit an appeal to POPLA, which is subsequently rejected, you will no longer be able to pay the reduced rate.



Kind Regards,

Geralyn

The attached letter:

Dear *** ******
Re: Parking Charge Number ********** (Vehicle: *******)
Site: 17&Central Walthamstow
Issue date: 19/08/2025
POPLA Code: *********
Total amount due: £20 until 15/10/2025 £100 until 29/10/2025
Thank you for contacting us regarding your Parking Charge. We have carefully reviewed your appeal and the evidence
provided. While we understand your concerns, after a thorough review, we regret that we cannot cancel the Parking
Charge on this occasion.
If payment had been successfully made for the correct vehicle registration number, it would have been recorded in our
system; however, there is no record of a matching vehicle registration number entry on the day of the contravention, so
this Parking Charge was issued correctly.
The requirement to enter the correct and complete vehicle registration number is clearly stated on the signage displayed
at the site and is part of the contractual terms agreed to when parking.
Our system relies on a matching vehicle registration number entry to validate parking sessions and link payments to
vehicles.
As part of our review, we examined all payment records from the date of the incident, including partial and incomplete
entries. Unfortunately, we found no similar vehicle registration number entries that could be linked to the vehicle in
question.
While we acknowledge the bank statement provided, please note that a bank statement alone does not confirm that the
correct vehicle registration number was entered or that the payment was linked to your vehicle.
As a gesture of goodwill and in recognition of your effort to demonstrate payment, we are willing to reduce the charge to
£20 if paid within 14 days from the date of this letter.
For future parking sessions, please ensure your vehicle registration number is entered accurately and completely when
making a booking to avoid similar issues.
You have now reached the end of our internal appeals procedure and therefore you now have two options; you can either
pay or appeal to POPLA - you cannot do both.
You can pay the total amount due as shown above via the following website:
www.pay.parkmaven.com
Or, you can appeal to an Independent Appeals Service, POPLA (Parking on Private Land Appeals) using the POPLA
Reference code provided above.
Please note, should you decide to appeal to POPLA and your appeal is subsequently rejected, or you decide to withdraw
your appeal, the option to pay a discounted amount will no longer be available and the full amount of the Parking Charge
will become due.
If you decide to appeal to POPLA, you will need to visit their website, where further details of how to appeal (either online
ParkMaven Limited
Registered office: Level 4, 2 Redman Place, London, E20 1JQ
Company number: 11089886 | www.parkmaven.com
or by downloading the relevant forms) can be found. If you are unable to access their website, please contact us for
further information on how to obtain the forms. Please ensure that your POPLA reference number as noted above is
quoted on all correspondence to POPLA.
POPLA WEBSITE:
www.popla.co.uk
You have 28 days from the date of this letter to submit an appeal to POPLA; if you appeal to POPLA we will suspend
recovery activity on the Parking Charge and the charge will not increase past the full amount until the appeal has been
determined.
By law we are also required to inform you that Ombudsman Services provides an alternative dispute resolution service
that would be competent to deal with your appeal. However, we have not chosen to participate in their alternative dispute
resolution service. As such should you wish to appeal then you must do so to POPLA, as explained above.
OMBUDSMAN WEBSITE:
www.ombudsman-services.org
If you do not make payment or submit an appeal to POPLA within the relevant timeframe, the outstanding Parking Charge
may be passed to our appointed debt collection agency for further action. All costs associated with this process will be
added to the outstanding amount.

Yours sincerely,
Appeals Department
ParkMaven Ltd
« Last Edit: October 31, 2025, 04:00:49 am by zexx »

Once again they refuse to specify the VRN, partial or otherwise, which WAS connected with your payment.

Onto POPLA then.
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Here is enough to throw at POPLA...

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Appellant: Registered Keeper
VRM: E20OMG
PCN: [reference]
Site: 17&Central Walthamstow
Date: 14/08/2025
Operator: ParkMaven Ltd
POPLA code: 5752755356

Ground 1 – Payment made; contravention denied
Documentary evidence confirms a card payment to ParkMaven was processed at approximately 14:19 on 14/08/2025. The terminal accepted a VRM, displayed an error, yet the funds were taken. The operator has not denied receipt. On the balance of probabilities the payment corresponds to the period of parking.

Ground 2 – Strict proof of payment logs and reconciliation data
The operator is put to strict proof of its full payment and machine logs for the material period (14:10 to 14:30 on 14 August 2025).
PPSCoP § 9.2 requires operators to maintain and be able to produce “accurate, complete and contemporaneous records” linking payments to vehicle registration marks (VRMs) for at least 36 months.

The operator must therefore disclose:
• terminal ID, authorisation code (ARN) and masked PAN;
• time-stamped success/error codes;
• raw VRM strings entered;
• VRM-to-payment linkage tables; and
• exception/orphan-payment reports for the relevant window.

If such records exist, they will show whether a payment was recorded at ≈14:19 and to which VRM (if any) it was allocated.

Failure to provide these records would confirm that the operator cannot evidence a contravention and is therefore in breach of PPSCoP § 10.2 (requiring sufficient evidence before issuing a charge).

Ground 3 – System reliability and evidential burden
The operator admits its terminals accept any VRM, correct or incorrect, without user warning. That design risk lies entirely within operator control. A system configured to take money without validating the VRM cannot be relied upon to prove a parking breach. Unless the operator provides technical logs establishing that the system was functioning correctly and that no software or data error occurred, the evidence is unreliable and the PCN cannot stand.

Ground 4 – PoFA keeper liability fails
Schedule 4 paragraph 9(2) is binary (“MUST” means all or nothing) and this NtK omits the mandatory invitation to the keeper to pay under 9(2)(e)(i).

Schedule 4 paragraph 9(2) does not say the notice should include certain things. It says: “The notice must — (a)… (b)… (c)… (d)… (e)… (f)… (g)… (h)… (i)…”. “Must” is compulsory. PoFA 9(2) is a statutory gateway to keeper liability: either every required element is present or the gateway never opens. There is no such thing as “partial” or even “substantial compliance” with 9(2). Like pregnancy, it is binary: a notice is either PoFA-compliant or it is not. If one required limb is missing, the operator cannot use PoFA to pursue the keeper. End of.

Here the missing limb is 9(2)(e)(i). That sub-paragraph requires the NtK to invite the keeper to pay the unpaid parking charges. The law is explicit that the invitation must be directed to “the keeper”. It is not enough to tell “the driver” to pay; it must invite “the keeper” to pay if the creditor wants keeper liability.

What this NtK actually does is talk only to “the driver” when demanding payment, and nowhere invites “the keeper” to pay. The demand section of the NtK is framed in driver terms (e.g. language such as “the driver is required to pay within 28 days” / “payment is due from the driver”), and there is no sentence that invites “the keeper” to pay the unpaid parking charges. The word “keeper” (if used at all) appears only in neutral data/disclosure paragraphs or generic definitions, not in any invitation to pay. That omission is precisely what 9(2)(e)(i) forbids.

For the avoidance of doubt, 9(2)(e) contains two limbs: (i) an invitation to the keeper to pay, and (ii) an invitation to either identify and serve the driver and to pass the notice to the driver. Even setting aside 9(2)(e)(ii), the absence of the 9(2)(e)(i) keeper-payment invitation alone is fatal to PoFA compliance. The statute makes keeper liability contingent on strict satisfaction of every “must” in 9(2). Where a notice invites only “the driver” to pay, it fails 9(2)(e)(i), so it is not a PoFA notice. The operator therefore cannot transfer liability from an unidentified driver to the registered keeper. Only the driver could ever be liable; the driver is not identified. The keeper is not liable in law.

Ground 5 – The operator is put to strict proof of standing flowing from the landowner
I require strict proof of a valid, contemporaneous contract or lease flowing from the landowner that authorises the operator to manage parking, issue PCNs, and pursue legal action in its own name. I refer the operator and the POPLA assessor to Section 14 of the PPSCoP, which clearly sets out mandatory minimum requirements that must be evidenced before any parking charge may be issued on controlled land.
In particular, Section 14.1(a)–(j) requires the operator to have in place written confirmation from the landowner which includes:
• the identity of the landowner,
• a boundary map of the land to be managed,
• applicable byelaws,
• the duration and scope of authority granted,
• detailed parking terms and conditions including any specific permissions or exemptions,
• the means of issuing PCNs,
• responsibility for obtaining planning and advertising consents,
• and the operator’s obligations and appeal procedure under the Code.

These requirements are not optional. They are a condition precedent to issuing a PCN and bringing any associated action. Accordingly, the operator is put to strict proof of compliance with the entirety of Section 14 of the PPSCoP. Any document that contains redactions must not obscure the above conditions. The document must also be dated and signed by identifiable persons with evidence of their authority to act for the parties to the agreement. The operator must provide an agreement showing clear authorisation from the landowner for this specific site.

Ground 6 – Breach of PPSCoP §§ 7.2, 7.3, 9.2, 10.2 and 12.2: tariff paid, unreliable system, improper charge
The operator admits its machines “accept any VRM, correct or incorrect, without alerting the user”.

That admission alone breaches §7.2 (payment systems – clear instructions and accurate processing) and §7.3 (system reliability – equipment must record payments against the correct VRM).

Under §9.2 (record-keeping) the operator must maintain audit-ready logs enabling reconciliation of every payment, including “orphan” payments. No such reconciliation has been demonstrated.

Issuing a PCN without reconciling these records breaches §10.2 (issue of charges – must have evidence of a contravention). Further, §12.2 (customer service and communication) requires effective contact routes for motorists to resolve machine or payment issues. No such contact route was available at the site, again breaching the Code.

A charge issued where the tariff was paid, the system design is admittedly flawed, and reconciliation was not undertaken is contrary to the PPSCoP and cannot stand. POPLA should therefore allow the appeal on the basis that the operator’s conduct and evidence fail to meet mandatory requirements under §§ 7.2, 7.3, 9.2, 10.2 and 12.2 of the Private Parking Single Code of Practice v1.1 (17 February 2025).

Conclusion
The driver is not identified. The operator has failed to establish keeper liability, failed to produce strict proof of payment logs and system integrity, and failed to evidence standing under the PPSCoP. POPLA is invited to require full audit disclosure and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Wow! Thank you.

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Dear M** ****,

Your parking charge appeal against ParkMaven Limited - EW.

ParkMaven Limited - EW has now uploaded its evidence to your appeal. This will be available for you to view by clicking here

Please note: some evidence may not show immediately, if it is not currently available on your account please check back later before contacting us.

You have seven days from the date of this correspondence to provide comments on the evidence uploaded by ParkMaven Limited - EW.

Please note that these comments must relate to the grounds of appeal you submitted when first lodging your appeal with POPLA, we do not accept new grounds of appeal or evidence at this stage

Any comments received after the period of seven days has ended will not be considered and we will progress your appeal for assessment. Therefore, if you have any issues with the evidence uploaded by ParkMaven Limited - EW such as being unable to view it online, please contact POPLA immediately via phone - 0330 1596 126, or email - info@popla.co.uk, so that we can look to rectify this as soon as possible.

After this period has ended, we will aim to issue our decision as quickly as possible. The decision we reach is final and binding. When the decision is reached there is no further option for appeal.

Yours sincerely

POPLA Team

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