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UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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Hi all,

I, the registered keeper has received a Notice to Keeper (NTK) on the 19th September 2025 for an alleged contravention described as “stopping in a restricted area” at Leeds City Station.

According to the NTK, the vehicle stopped for an unspecified  amount of minutes to allow a passenger to be dropped off. The driver did not see any new signage or road markings indicating that stopping was prohibited, and this location has previously been used for drop-offs without issue.

The NTK (image attached) arrived recently. The registered keeper is currently dealing with redundancy, so any advice on next steps would be very welcome.

Thanks in advance for any guidance.

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« Last Edit: September 19, 2025, 12:44:24 pm by Kbr1 »

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Re: Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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Easy one to deal with… as long as the unknown drivers identity is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

Use the following as your appeal:

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I am the registered keeper. UKCPS cannot hold a registered keeper liable for any alleged contravention on land that is under statutory control. As a matter of fact and law, UKCPS will be well aware that they cannot use the PoFA provisions because Leeds City Stattion is not 'relevant land'.

If the landowner wanted to hold owners or keepers liable under Railway Bylaws, that would be within the landowner's gift and another matter entirely. However, not only is that not pleaded, it is also not legally possible because UKCPS is not the station owner and your 'parking charge' is not and never attempts to be a penalty. It is created for UKCPS’s own profit (as opposed to a bylaws penalty that goes to the public purse) and UKCPS has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. UKCPS have no hope should you be so stupid as to litigate, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain
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Re: Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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The PCN is a load of tosh.

The PCN is issued too late to transfer liability from the unknown driver to you as registered keeper.

The PCN does not specify a period of parking.

The PCN states a lie that you can be pursued under the assumption that you were the driver.

PLUS it’s not “relevant land”!
« Last Edit: September 19, 2025, 12:25:56 pm by jfollows »

Re: IPC Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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They obviously know that they cannot rely on PoFA as the location is not relevant land as it is under railway byelaws statute. Even their NtK says very clearly that it is a "Notice to Keeper (Postal - Non PoFA) Issued on private land". However they then sate the following within the NtK:

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Please be warned: that if, after the period of 28 days beginning with the day after that on which the Notice is given (i) the amount of the unpaid Parking Charge specified in this Notice has not been paid in full, and (i) we do not know both the name of the driver and a current address for service for the driver, we may recover from you, the keeper, on the assumption that you were the driver, so much of that Parking Charge as remains unpaid.

In law, there can be no "assumption" or inference that the Keeper was the driver. The burden of proof is on the claimant to prove that the Keeper was the driver and the only way they would know that, is if the Keeper blabs it to them, inadvertently or otherwise. The persuasive appellate case of VCS v Edward (2023) put that one to bed.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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Thank you, I will appeal with that template

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
« Reply #5 on: »
Thank you, I will appeal with that template

Hey, I'm in the same situation- did your appeal work?

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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Doesn't matter whether it "works or not". You are dealing with a firm of ex-clampers who will do anything to extort money from you. They are likely to reject any initial appeal, just because they can and in the hope you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who can be intimidated into paying out of ignorance and fear.

They are IPC members which means any secondary appeal to the IAS is not likely o succeed as the IAS is not "independent" at all. Ultimately, they are likely to issue a county court claim as a last ditch effort to try and intimidate you int paying. However, any claim, defended with our assistance and template will end up being either struck out or discontinued. No doubt about it.

All you have to do is refuse to identify the driver.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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This seems to be a relatively new thing, as all the threads I've searched for come back to relatively the same dates.

I've also gotten one of these and just appealed using the boilerplate, so I'll let you guys know the result.

(didn't make a new thread as I'm not really asking for help)
collecting tickets like pokemon, gotta catch them all

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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Hi just an update, I've received a response from UKCPS.

They've denied my initial appeal, and I'm unsure what steps forward I should take. Should I continue to appeal or ignore this?

"Thank you for your appeal submitted on 19th September 2025. After reviewing your comments, and carefully
considering the evidence collected at the time the Parking Charge was issued, we regret to inform you that your
appeal has been unsuccessful. The reasons for our decision are detailed below:
The area where the vehicle stopped is designated as private land where parking, stopping, or waiting is strictly
prohibited at all times.
At the time of the event, the vehicle was parked, stopped or waiting in this area, and as a result, the driver
contractually agrees to pay a parking charge. As you have not provided driver details, we are unable to transfer
the liability. The circumstances outlined in your appeal do not negate you from the terms and conditions in place
on the site. As the vehicle has stopped in a no stopping area, the terms and conditions have been breached and
therefore the PCN has been issued correctly.
Attached, you will find photographic evidence showing the vehicle parked at the location mentioned above.
We have extended the opportunity for you to pay the reduced amount of, £60.00, until 23/10/2025, after this date,
the full amount of £100.00 will be due.
Regards,
Appeals Team"


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Totally as expected. However, they are utter morons and will hope that you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree who can be intimidated into paying up out of ignorance and fear.

You should send the following as your IAS appeal. Not much chance of that being successful either, but worth a try and it will cost them to challenges it unless they concede.

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I am the registered keeper of the vehicle. I deny any liability for this parking charge and appeal in full.

The parking operator bears the burden of proof. It must establish that a contravention occurred, that a valid contract was formed between the operator and the driver, and that it has lawful authority to operate and issue Parking Charge Notices (PCNs) in its own name. I therefore require the operator to provide the following:

1. Strict proof of clear, prominent, and adequate signage that was in place on the date in question, at the exact location of the alleged contravention. This must include a detailed site plan showing the placement of each sign and legible images of the signs in situ. The operator must demonstrate that signage was visible, legible, and compliant with the IPC Code of Practice that was valid at the time of the alleged contravention, including requirements relating to font size, positioning, and the communication of key terms.

2. Strict proof of a valid, contemporaneous contract or lease flowing from the landowner that authorises the operator to manage parking, issue PCNs, and pursue legal action in its own name. I refer the operator and the IAS assessor to Section 14 of the PPSCoP (Relationship with Landowner), which clearly sets out mandatory minimum requirements that must be evidenced before any parking charge may be issued on controlled land.

In particular, Section 14.1(a)–(j) requires the operator to have in place written confirmation from the landowner which includes:

• the identity of the landowner,
• a boundary map of the land to be managed,
• applicable byelaws,
• the duration and scope of authority granted,
• detailed parking terms and conditions including any specific permissions or exemptions,
• the means of issuing PCNs,
• responsibility for obtaining planning and advertising consents,
• and the operator’s obligations and appeal procedure under the Code.

These requirements are not optional. They are a condition precedent to issuing a PCN and bringing any associated action. Accordingly, I put the operator to strict proof of compliance with the entirety of Section 14 of the PPSCoP. Any document that contains redactions must not obscure the above conditions. The document must also be dated and signed by identifiable persons, with evidence of their authority to act on behalf of the parties to the agreement. The operator must provide an agreement showing clear authorisation from the landowner for this specific site.

3. Strict proof that the enforcement mechanism (e.g. ANPR or manual patrol) is reliable, synchronised, maintained, and calibrated regularly. The operator must prove the vehicle was present for the full duration alleged and not simply momentarily on site, potentially within a permitted consideration or grace period as defined by the PPSCoP.

4. Strict proof that the Notice to Keeper complies with the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (PoFA), if the operator is attempting to rely on keeper liability. Any failure to comply with the mandatory wording or timelines in Schedule 4 of PoFA renders keeper liability unenforceable.

5. Strict proof that the NtK was posted in time for it to have been given within the relevant period. The PPSCoP section 8.1.2(d) Note 2 requires that the operator must retain a record of the date of posting of a notice, not simply of that notice having been generated (e.g. the date that any third-party Mail Consolidator actually put it in the postal system.)

6. The IAS claims that its assessors are “qualified solicitors or barristers.” Yet there is no way to verify this. Decisions are unsigned, anonymised, and unpublished. There is no transparency, no register of assessors, and no way for a motorist to assess the legal credibility of the individual supposedly adjudicating their appeal. If the person reading this really is legally qualified, they will know that without strict proof of landowner authority (VCS v HMRC [2013] EWCA Civ 186), no claim can succeed. They will also know that clear and prominent signage is a prerequisite for contract formation (ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67), and that keeper liability under PoFA is only available where strict statutory conditions are met.

If the assessor chooses to overlook these legal requirements and accept vague assertions or redacted documents from the operator, that will speak for itself—and lend further weight to the growing concern that this appeals service is neither independent nor genuinely legally qualified.

In short, I dispute this charge in its entirety and require full evidence of compliance with the law, industry codes of practice, and basic contractual principles.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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In this case I'd be more tempted to lead with, and make more of a point of, #4

UKCPS have openly said they are not using PoFA, it even says that explicitly on the Notice. We've seen a few successful appeals at the IAS recently on similar points, so I'd say it's potentially worth making the point a bit more explicitly.

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Thank you for your help, I'll proceed to make an IAS appeal!


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Hello, I've made an appeal to the IAS and I've received a response

The operator made their Prima Facie Case on 22/10/2025 11:18:03.

The operator reported that...
The appellant was the keeper.
The Notice to Keeper (Non-ANPR) was sent on 15/09/2025.
The ticket was issued on 31/08/2025.
The charge is based in Contract.

The operator made the following comments...
The Parking Charge Notice was issued as a result of the vehicle stopping in an area where stopping is clearly prohibited at all times. The site in question, located at Leeds City Station, is under active enforcement due to safety and congestion concerns. This location is designated as a strict “No Stopping” zone, and enforcement is permitted in accordance with the IPC Code of Practice, which recognises that such restrictions may be necessary in areas with high pedestrian footfall or complex traffic flow.

The signage on site meets the requirements set out in the IPC Code of Practice in terms of visibility, positioning, and clarity of terms. The photographic evidence provided by the operator shows that multiple warning signs are placed at prominent positions throughout the location, clearly stating that stopping is not permitted and that a Parking Charge Notice will be issued to vehicles found to be in breach. The signs are legible, in plain language, and displayed in a manner that would be visible to a reasonable driver. Signage does not need to be read in full for a contract to be formed; it is sufficient that the signs are prominent and convey the essential terms clearly. This is consistent with the findings in ParkingEye v Beavis [2015] UKSC 67, which established that clear signage displaying a contractual term is enforceable, even in the context of private land.

Your assertion that the operator must provide strict proof of signage location, calibration records, and a detailed landowner contract is noted. However, the IPC appeals process is designed to assess whether, on the balance of probabilities, a contravention occurred and the Parking Charge Notice was issued correctly. Operators who are members of the IPC are required to hold and maintain valid landowner authority and to adhere to the obligations set out in Section 14 of the Code of Practice. The operator has confirmed, as part of their accreditation, that such authority is in place and that enforcement at this location is properly authorised. The Appeals Service is satisfied that the operator has the legal standing to issue Parking Charge Notices and pursue them in its own name.

In relation to the duration of the stop, it is important to clarify that grace periods or consideration periods do not apply in no-stopping zones. These are specifically excluded under the IPC Code of Practice for locations where stopping is never permitted. Whether the stop lasted seconds or minutes is not relevant—the act of stopping in breach of clearly displayed signage is itself sufficient to constitute a contravention of the advertised terms.

If the operator is not seeking to rely on the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to establish keeper liability, compliance with the timelines and wording in Schedule 4 is not necessary. The operator may instead pursue the keeper on the balance of probabilities if no driver is named, a position that has been upheld in numerous appeal cases. If PoFA is being relied upon, then the timing of the Notice to Keeper and its content would be assessed for compliance. In this case, there is no indication that PoFA is the basis for liability.


I need to respond by the 29/10/2025 but I'm unsure if I need to submit a response or refer case to arbitration

Thank you

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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The operator may instead pursue the keeper on the balance of probabilities if no driver is named, a position that has been upheld in numerous appeal cases
is a lie.

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You should send the following as your IAS appeal. Not much chance of that being successful either, but worth a try and it will cost them to challenges it unless they concede.

Be happy that your appeal cost UKCPS something like £23.

You will now get useless letters from debt collectors, which you should ignore.

Come back here when you receive a Letter of Claim.

This is a well-trodden path which will result in you paying £0. In the meantime, UKCPS will try and frighten you into paying them.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2025, 03:22:09 pm by jfollows »

Re: UKCPS Parking charge - no stopping - Leeds city station
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Typical IAS kangaroo court, male bovine excrement. I advise you to respond with the following, verbatim:

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If the IAS assessor is legally trained (questionable), they would know liability is the threshold issue: this is railway land governed by byelaws, not “relevant land” under PoFA, the driver is unidentified, and the operator expressly disavows PoFA, therefore there is no lawful route to hold the Keeper liable and the enquiry ends there.

Any attempt to conjure liability by asserting that the Keeper was “probably” the driver is a legal fiction flatly contrary to the very purpose of PoFA (which was enacted to remove such inferences), repeatedly rejected in persuasive authorities including VCS v Edward (2023) and the consistent line of county court appeal decisions disapproving Elliott v Loake/AJH Films misuse, and it would be irrational and perverse to proceed to signage or “no stopping” merits when the claimant has no cause of action against the Keeper at all.

If it were myself responding, I would go even further and use this instead, such is my contempt for the IAS:

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If the anonymous IAS “assessor” were genuinely legally trained, never mind the solicitor or barrister they pretend to be, they would recognise that liability must first exist before any alleged contractual breach can even be discussed. The operator admits PoFA does not apply, as this is alleged contravention was at a railway station and therefore not relevant land.

Without PoFA and without an identified driver, there is simply no lawful route to Keeper liability. To fabricate liability “on the balance of probabilities” is not only contrary to statute but flies in the face of persuasive case law such as VCS v Edward (2023), where the court confirmed that no such presumption exists. The whole point of PoFA was to prevent precisely this kind of inference.

To proceed on that basis would expose the IAS’s assessment process as legally incompetent at best, and institutionally dishonest at worst — a parody of legal reasoning conducted by anonymous baristas masquerading as barristers.

Your choice.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain