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Notice to keeper PCN
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I received a notice to keeper PCN in the post today and I think its ridiculous. I entered a small area by a shop which I thought was just a small lay by for shop customers to stop, pop into the shop and leave. I was stopped for a total of 8 minutes. No signage as you enter or leave and just a small warning sign on the wall about 5-10 meters away from the last bay which i only noticed after I recieved the ticket. (Adress of area where this took place is 22 sea road, Bournemouth)

If anybody could help me fight this ridiculous ticket that would be a great help.

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Re: Notice to keeper PCN
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Please post up the PCN.

Re: Notice to keeper PCN
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If you park on private land, depending on the size of the car park there is a “consideration period” to allow you time to read the signs and decide not to park. It’s likely in this case that this is 5 minutes. So the driver will have parked for longer than this, will have entered into a contract by reading the signs and parking, and is now being invoiced for payment under the contract. The invoice is to the registered keeper, not to the driver, because they don’t know who the driver is unless you tell them, but the Protections of Freedoms Act 2012 allows them to transfer liability to the registered keeper as long as specific requirements of the legislation are complied with.

If the signs were missing or unclear, an argument could be made that a contract wasn’t entered into.

You should read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ for two reasons:
  • to understand how to post images here so that we can see the Notice to Keeper and signage
  • to understand to refer to the driver in the third person, don’t use “I” for example.
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Re: Notice to keeper PCN
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If I've found the right place on Google maps I'd agree signage is woefully lacking, one densely worded sign on a wall, no signs on the entrances etc. So it really isn't clear it's private land.

Need to see the PCN though, was it on the windscreen? Have you had anything through the post (NTK.?). Which operator will alsomake a difference in how this will play out.

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Here is the PCN i recieved yesterday in the post: https://ibb.co/WN0dYy4B

If I've found the right place on Google maps I'd agree signage is woefully lacking, one densely worded sign on a wall, no signs on the entrances etc. So it really isn't clear it's private land.

Need to see the PCN though, was it on the windscreen? Have you had anything through the post (NTK.?). Which operator will alsomake a difference in how this will play out.

Re: Notice to keeper PCN
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Please post up the PCN.

Here is the PCN:
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