Author Topic: Gemini Parking Solutions PCN – Over Time Limit – Claremont Way, Brent Cross Town  (Read 407 times)

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Claremont Way car park is located on a newly build town (with housing, restaurants, parks) near to where the driver lives. It has a three hour free time limit (The driver doesn't believe you can pay for extra time). The Google street view of the area is old and incorrect but this video is accurate: https://www.facebook.com/brentcrosstown/videos/did-you-know-behind-claremont-way-theres-a-free-carpark-located-behind-cricklewo/555844885915920/

On 10/11/24, the driver parked the car in the car park and took their two young children to the park, met some friends for lunch in the local restaurant and struggled to get the young children back to the car. Once at the car one of the children needed a nappy change which added on more time before they could actually leave. In the end the driver left 14 minutes after the 3 hr free period expired

The V5C is in possession.

Today the registered keeper received the following PCN:





Any advice gratefully received!
Given it's a newly built town, with a visitor centre trying to sell flats etc. the driver thought emailing the visitor centre might be worth a go? https://brentcrosstown.co.uk/ See if they have any sway

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Non-PoFA appeal FTLA

Easy one to defeat... as long as the unknown drivers identity is not revealed. There is no legal obligation on the known keeper (the recipient of the Notice to Keeper (NtK)) to reveal the identity of the unknown driver and no inference or assumptions can be made.

The NtK is not compliant with all the requirements of PoFA which means that if the unknown driver is not identified, they cannot transfer liability for the charge from the unknown driver to the known keeper.

Use the following as your appeal. No need to embellish or remove anything from it:

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I am the keeper of the vehicle and I dispute your 'parking charge'. I deny any liability or contractual agreement and I will be making a complaint about your predatory conduct to your client landowner.

As your Notice to Keeper (NtK) does not fully comply with ALL the requirements of PoFA 2012, you are unable to hold the keeper of the vehicle liable for the charge. Partial or even substantial compliance is not sufficient. There will be no admission as to who was driving and no inference or assumptions can be drawn. Gemini has relied on contract law allegations of breach against the driver only.

The registered keeper cannot be presumed or inferred to have been the driver, nor pursued under some twisted interpretation of the law of agency. Your NtK can only hold the driver liable. Gemini have no hope at IAS, so you are urged to save us both a complete waste of time and cancel the PCN.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thanks!

Elsewhere on this forum, Gemini have rejected this https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/gemini-parking-solutions-gunnersbury-park/msg46334/#msg46334

How does this usually end? Do they just keep posting/emailing to make you pay up?

Yes, Gemini will reject. However, it is all part of the process.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain