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Hi everyone,

I’m seeking advice after receiving a Parking Charge Notice (PCN) from All Parking Services UK Ltd. Despite being a resident with contractual rights to the space, they issued a charge on my first day moving in, when a hired van was used to unload my belongings into my designated parking bay. Here are the full details, arguments, and legal references. I’d really appreciate input or similar experiences.

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« Last Edit: May 12, 2025, 11:26:00 pm by chigs181 »

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For sure you have a case, I looked but can’t find what I thought was a recent sensible POPLA decision in favour of the appeal. I would be a little stronger, you have no need to notice anything APS says or puts on its signs, you only engaged with them so far for courtesy and convenience. And “no loss” is no longer a valid appeal point following Beavis. Some recent cases see companies disengaging once a POPLA appeal is made, but even if not and even if POPLA does not find in your favour I still don’t see you losing in court.
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For your OOPLA appeal, you put the operator to strict proof that they have a valid contract flowing from the landowner to operate and issue PCNs in their own name at the property.

What exactly does your AST/ lease say about parking? What it doesn’t say is equally important. For example, is there any mention of a requirement to display a permit when parking in your demised parking space?

Can you ask your landlord for a copy of their head lease? If there is nothing in your lease about requiring permits to be displayed, you can say that you only displayed one out of courtesy, not obligation.

Unfortunately, POPLA assessors can be quite moronic at times and will often reason that just because there are some signs in place, the operator must have landowner permission to operate. Thankfully, if this went to litigation, that kind of idiotic reasoning is not accepted and, as in the majority of residential private parking cases, the operator cannot evidence that their contract with the landowner or their managing agent is supreme to the leaseholders rights.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thanks for this — really helpful. I didn’t challenge the operator on the landowner contract during the internal appeals stage — is that a problem for POPLA or can I still raise it now?

In terms of the tenancy, under the Special Tenancy Conditions there’s a very simple clause:
8.2 Additional clause(s):
• Parking: Car park space 50

There’s no mention of any requirement to display a permit or to register my vehicle. Nor does it say anything about being bound by a third-party operator’s terms or signage. The space is part of the tenancy.

The parking is ANPR-controlled and I was only asked to register my vehicle via a QR code link sent by the managing agent. It just said:

“Welcome to (Building Name) – E Permit Parking Registration”
and instructions to register one vehicle per flat. There was no mention that this was a legal requirement or that failure to register would constitute a breach of contract or tenancy. So I could argue I only registered out of courtesy and to avoid hassle — not out of obligation.

Do you recommend I ask the landlord for a copy of the head lease as well, to back this up?

Do you recommend I ask the landlord for a copy of the head lease as well, to back this up?
Yes

It would help if you can get your landlord to provide you with a copy of their lease. You only need to know what that says about parking. Does your AST mention anything about incorporating the terms of the head lease?

The parking company’s attempt to enforce a PCN for failure to display a permit may be unlawful interference with your right to quiet enjoyment.
« Last Edit: May 13, 2025, 01:33:55 pm by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Okay, thanks. I’ll request a copy of the head lease via the lettings agency and check what it says specifically about parking.

For now, the only mention of the head lease in my AST is in the definitions section:
“The Lease (if applicable): The Lease under which the Landlord holds the Property. The obligations set out in the Head Lease will bind the Tenant provided the Tenant has been given notice of them.”

I haven’t been given any separate notice of head lease obligations relating to parking, so I assume they don’t apply.

I haven’t been given any separate notice of head lease obligations relating to parking, so I assume they don’t apply.
That seems reasonable, yes.