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I have the original PCN and the usual chain of follow on letters.

And these would be what and when?

PCN was received in April 2020, then nothing til the debt recovery letters started in Dec 2024. I moved address a month before the alleged offense but the DVLA provided them with the old address. I did inform the DVLA of the change well before the PCN was issued, DCBLegal are implying I didn’t do this. Maybe the DVLA didn’t get chance to update it before they requested it. I do remember the whole country coming to a halt in March 2020. Except of course for the grabbing parking companies!

The operator can only request your Keeper data from the DVLA once. They cannot go back again later. If your address was not correct at the date they applied for your data then that's it for them. Before any claim is issued, they are required to do a credit reference search for an alternative address if they've not had any response to the original PCN.

When you say you informed the DVLA of the address change, did you do that separately for both your drivers licence and for the V5C? One does not automatically update the other.
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When you say you informed the DVLA of the address change, did you do that separately for both your drivers licence and for the V5C? One does not automatically update the other.
Yes I updated the V5C as well, like I say they must’ve applied for my data before it was all updated.

Wait for DCB Legal's response and subsequent N1SDT Claim Form that will follow. One step at a time.
I’ve received the N1SDT claim form today. Should I fill out the acknowledgment of service form and submit my defense later? What advice can you give me to defend the claim?
Thank you

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My main defense is that the signage was absent on entry and there was conflicting signs inside, none stated the time allowed was 0 minutes. Can I get advice how to word my defense please?

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The original PCN

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With an issue date of 3rd June, you have until 4pm on Monday 23rd June to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Monday 7th July to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you combine both documents as a single PDF attachment and send as an attachment in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of G24 Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

G24 Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4. The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Adequately explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

5. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence
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Thank you! I'm so grateful for your advice, I'll probably go straight ahead with sending my defence. In addition to the non compliant PoC, is it worth adding anything to the template letter, for instance, the photos of the confusing signage and lack of parking T&Cs on entry to the car park?

Evidence etc. would come later at the Witness Statement stage, if (unlikely) it gets that far.

Ok, thanks. So If I email the defence today, I don't need to send an acknowledgement of service via MCOL at all?

The only reason you would need to submit the AoS is if you need more time to put your defence together. Do you need more time?

...I didn't think so!
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Hi again, I’ve received an email from DCBLegal stating their intention to proceed, attached is a directions questionnaire which they have completed. What happens next? Will I receive the same questionnaire?

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You will receive your own DQ but you can pre-empt it by checking your MCOL history for when yours has been sent then follow this advice:

Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
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• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.

Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Thanks.  I didn’t acknowledge through MCOL though , I just submitted my defense straight away. Does that matter?

It doesn't matter how or if you submitted your AOS. You should still be able to log into your MCOL and check everything.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain