Author Topic: Letter Before Claim from Moorside Legal (on behalf of Parking Control Management UK)  (Read 1754 times)

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I went on the ICO website Live chat for complaints and expressed concerns that the DPO email link at Moorside legal is not being monitored.  Not sure what action will be taken.
Also sent a recorded delivery letter to Moorsides registered address in Oldham..don't expect anything in return but its something that can be presented in court.

Hi @Maximum Bob, did you get any response at all?

Nothing to do. The ball is in their court. It's Xmas week so probably nobody is at work. Why the impatience? This process is going to last many months.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

@Snowynight Not had any response.

Just for additional information.  litigationteam@moorsidelegal.co.uk seems to be active.  It at least gave an automated acknowledgement of receipt when tested at the end of this year while the help address still returns the automatic not monitored response.
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Hi,   

Finally received a response yesterday from noreply@moorsidelegal.co.uk below, and the original PCN with some photos and the appeal were also attached in the email. What can we do next?

"
   We write in relation to the above matter.
   
   Moorside Legal acts on behalf of Alliance Parking as an external debt recovery agent for legal action. Communication between Moorside Legal and Alliance Parking typically relates to case progression, operational instructions, and status updates. These exchanges concern the management of the Parking Charge Notice (PCN) from a business‑to‑business standpoint.
   
   Because this communication does not contain your personal data nor does it identify you directly or indirectly, it does not fall within the scope of personal data as defined under the UK GDPR.
   
   Under the UK GDPR, organisations are required to disclose personal data, not operational records or internal communications. Any correspondence between Moorside Legal and Alliance Parking that relates purely to process, case management, or administrative instructions is considered business information, not personal data.
   
   As required under Article 15 of the UK GDPR and in line with ICO guidance, the purposes for which we process your personal data are to manage and enforce parking terms and conditions. The categories of personal data we hold include vehicle registration details, keeper details obtained from the DVLA, and correspondence history.
   
   Please be advised that the help@moorsidelegal.co.uk mailbox is not monitored. Accordingly, we advise that you register on our Customer Portal using the link below:
   🔗 https://portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk
   Should you choose not to utilise the Portal, please direct all future correspondence to dpo@apn.co.uk.
   
   Our Privacy Policy outlines where we collect personal data from and the lawful basis on which we may process it. You can read more about how and why we hold and process your personal data via the following link:   https://moorsidelegal.co.uk/privacy-policy/
   
   If you need any assistance, feel free to contact us on 0330 822 9950.
   
   Please see the attached PCN, which was correctly issued in accordance with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012. This legislation allows us to hold the registered keeper liable for the full outstanding balance if driver details are not provided.
   
   To view the supporting photographic evidence, kindly visit the link below and quote reference ******:
   🔗  https://www.pay-my-pcn.co.uk/live-3sc-user/
   
   By entering and parking the vehicle on our client's private land, you agreed to enter into a contract with our client and to be bound by the terms and conditions of that contract. The terms and conditions were clearly displayed in prominent places within the car park. Due to your failure to comply with the terms and conditions, our client has issued the PCN therefore if we are instructed to issue a claim the reason would be for Unpaid parking charges/breach of contract.
   
   You have already made representation to our client, who have responded accordingly. We cannot overturn their decision.
   
   In our client’s letter notifying you of the rejection of your appeal, you were advised of the option to escalate the matter to an Independent Adjudication Service administered by our client’s Accredited Trade Association. As your appeal was also rejected at that stage, we must inform you that all avenues of appeal have now been exhausted.
   
   Considering the evidence, we are satisfied that the PCN has been issued in line with industry standards and is compliant with the International Parking Community’s (IPC) code of practice. The signage of the car park also complies with the International Parking Community’s Code of Practice.
   
   Please be advised that the original amount of the PCN was £100.00. As outlined in the notice, a reduced amount of £60.00 would have been accepted as full and final settlement if payment had been received within 14 days from the date of issue. Unfortunately, as no payment was received within that time frame, the opportunity to pay the reduced amount has now expired. As a result of continued non-payment and additional charges, the balance has increased and now stands at £170.00.
   
   The additional charge which has been levied on your Parking Charge of £70 is the amount set out in both the British Parking Association and International Parking Community Codes of Practice as the amount which may be added to a Parking Charge when a Parking Charge remains unpaid and when further recovery is required. Our client is a member of the International Parking Community which is a government approved Accredited Trade Association (ATA) for Private Parking. Our client adheres to the ATA’s Code of Practice. The £70 does not represent the cost of recovery but is a reasonable amount in relation to the Parking Charge amount, in order to encourage early payment of the Parking Charge without the need for debt recovery. It is a fair amount set by our client’s government-approved Accredited Trade Association Code of Practice. There are however also costs incurred by our client in relation to debt recovery services.
   
   It is unclear why you would need to inspect any agreement between our client and the landowner as you are not party to that agreement, nor could it aid your dispute or any potential defence.
   
   
   Please note that we will not be addressing any further correspondence related to disputes of the same nature, as we have already provided you with a response. However, should you wish to raise a new dispute, we will investigate the matter further and respond accordingly.
    
   We ask that you make the full payment of £170.00 within 7 days of receipt of this email.
   
   
   You can make payment in the following ways: 
      • Contact us on 0330 822 9950 (our opening times are Monday- Friday 9:00- 17:00);
      • portal.moorsidelegal.co.uk - Login to our portal
      • https://pay.moorside.legal - Quick Pay
   
   
   If you fail to respond or make payment, we may be instructed by our client to issue legal proceedings against you. This will incur further costs and fees that will be added to the outstanding balance. You may wish to seek independent legal advice. 
   "
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They claimed "The terms and conditions were clearly displayed in prominent places within the car park" - but again as I appealed before it is not true:

There is no entrance sign. And the only sign that appears to relate to the car park is tiny and practically hidden, not placed in close proximity (but about 25 feet away from the parking spaces), i.e., the tiny one on the building behind the trees and green space, not obvious at all. The font size is too small to be able to signify it relates to the car park. So motorists cannot be expected to read a sign that they did not see because of its distance from the car park and because it is obscured by a tree which had a lot more leaves on it when the PCN was issued compared to the picture they showed as evidence (there is only one taken by them in winter 2019 when tree leaves already fell off).