Author Topic: I Park Services Ltd – Parking Charge (2min:13s) – Jubilee Road, Wadebridge  (Read 6086 times)

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I, the registered keeper, was puzzled when this arrived on the doorstep this morning as I thought it was a scam but it is unfortunately not ☹
The driver drove into the car park, with four passengers with the intention of finding a car parking space. The adults in the vehicle scanned around but the only space that could be seen was deemed unsuitable i.e., too tight a space. Two of the passengers left the car on foot whilst the other three set off to find alternative free parking. The driver never left the vehicle and the engine was always running.
I am sorry but the story is as mundane as that – the vehicle entered, explored for a space, passengers thought about an alternative car park and left! I am angered that people are being exploited for this.
Some thoughts of my own:
The vehicle was never parked at any stage or impeded others.
The car park (see image) does have clear signage but it is real mixed layout hence it is not straightforward to see where all spaces are.
How on earth is 133 seconds enough time to reasonably consider your options or find a space? Is it even enough time to locate and read the terms and conditions?

Any support appreciated.

Link to copy of notice and car park pic - https://imgur.com/a/O7r1OUM


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How on earth is 133 seconds enough time to reasonably consider your options or find a space? Is it even enough time to locate and read the terms and conditions?
The short answers to those questions are:
  • It isn't
  • No

My view would be to appeal on the lines of the below:

Dear Sirs

I have received your Notice to Keeper (Ref #: ________) for vehicle registration mark ____ ___, in which you alleged the driver has incurred a parking charge. I am appealing as the registered keeper on the following grounds:

1. The vehicle was not parked.
The driver entered the site, sought a space, but was unable to find one, at which point they promptly left. As the vehicle was not at any point parked, no tariff was due, and no contract was formed that could give rise to a liability to pay a parking charge.

2. No consideration period was offered.
Section 5.1 of the private parking sector single Code of Practice, which the IPC states must be followed, states that "Where a parking operator assumes a vehicle is parked based on time alone they must allow a consideration period of appropriate duration". Annex B of the Code of Practice specifies that in a car park for which a tariff is due (pay and display), this consideration period must be a minimum of 5 minutes. As per your own ANPR evidence, the vehicle was on site for 2 minutes 13 seconds, far less than the minimum consideration period. As such, the charge must be cancelled.

I look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled and that my personal data has been removed from your records.

Yours,


Don't expect them to accept your appeal, these companies routinely reject appeals regardless of merit. However, it is wise to set out your case and demonstrate you're up for a fight.

Thank you for your speedy response. I notice that they insist that my appeal must be in writing. Is recorded delivery the expected method? I feel like invoicing them for my time (and yours!)and postage, with such a bizarre case. Are these things perhaps automated?

I notice that they insist that my appeal must be in writing. Is recorded delivery the expected method?
The back of the notice suggests you can appeal online - https://www.iparkservices.co.uk/manage-my-pcn.

Not relevant for this case but as a general bit of advice if you ever do need to appeal anything by post, recorded delivery is generally not advised. If you send something by regular first class post, and get a free certificate of posting from a post office, this is better, as you enjoy a presumption in law that your letter was delivered 2 working days later. If you send something recorded and it isn't delivered (lost in the post, refused by the recipient) then all you have is proof they didn't receive your letter.

Are these things perhaps automated?
Probably to a certain extent, their business model is to issue as many charges as possible, whilst incurring the least expenses possible.

Good afternoon,

Frustratingly IPS Ltd rejected my appeal (https://imgur.com/a/7uPVOjo). I used the template in this thread as the basis for the appeal but it fell on deaf ears. Is it a case of resubmitting the same argument/appeal to theias.org?

Thank you. 

As expected. Like I noted in my first reply, parking companies are not generally in the business of accepting appeals. It's your call whether or not you bother with the IAS - they are often regarded as a kangaroo court, and seldom accept appeals either. If you do decide to bother with an IAS appeal, I'd expand on point #2 a bit further. Refer also to Schedule 7 of the IPC's Code of Practice, in case they argue that the Single Code of Practice is not yet in force.

Bear in mind that if you do appeal to the IAS, they are also likely to reject your appeal - this does not mean it is without merit, and does not mean you have to pay. If they reject, or if you don't bother appealing to them, it is a case of waiting to see if I Park Services decide to take the matter to court. I'm not sure how litigious they are - they're not one of the bigger parking companies as far as I know.

If you want to waste time on an IAS appeal, that is your choice. With a less than 5% chance of success, who knows, it may be your lucky day.

The most likely scenario will be this...

1. Appeal or not, IAS futile.
2. Ignore all debt collector letters that follow.
3. Eventually, DCB Legal are contracted to send you a Letter of Claim (LoC)
4. Respond to LoC and report DCB Legal to HMRC for suspected VAT fraud.
5. DCB Legal issue an N1SDT claim on behalf of Ipark Services through the CNBC.
6. Acknowledge the claim and submit a defence.
7. DCB Legal either continue with the case or forget about it and it is stayed.
8. N180 DQs are exchanged.
9. Just before the trial fee has to be paid, DCB Legal issue an N279 Notice of Discontinuance (NoD).
10. go out and celebrate knowing it has cost you nothing but a bit of your time and around £50 for the morons at Ipark and DCB Legal.

This will all likely come to pass some time early next year. I'm taking odds of 100:1 that this will be the outcome if all the advice is followed.

No one but a fool and their money pay Ipark Services.
« Last Edit: September 09, 2024, 05:17:29 pm by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I appreciate the responses received thus far. I have decided to have a punt at the IAS process. If it fails, which I accept is a limited possibility, I will track the journey alongside @b789 suggestions.

In the mean time. Any feedback/enhancements to the appeal would be appreciated:

I am writing to appeal the parking charge notice (Ref #:     ) issued for vehicle registration mark **** ***. As the registered keeper, I believe there are compelling grounds for cancellation, which I outline below:

1. The vehicle was not parked.
The driver entered the site, sought a space, but was unable to find one, consequently two passengers alighted to explore alternative options. The driver paused for a minimal period of time in anticipation of a suitable space becoming available but this did not materialise. The driver departed Jubilee Road. As the vehicle was not at any point parked, no tariff was due, and no contract was formed that could give rise to a liability to pay a parking charge.
The whole episode took place over 133 seconds. The vehicle was unable to locate a suitable car parking space. The driver never parked the vehicle. No passenger(s) departed and returned to the vehicle. Is there an allegation that not being able to find a parking space is an alleged contravention? If so, this is a very dangerous and worrying precedent, which will be pursued. It is astonishing that this regular and routine procedure for finding a parking space can be deemed a contravention.

2. No consideration period was offered.
Section 5.1 of the private parking sector single Code of Practice, which the IPC states must be followed, states that "Where a parking operator assumes a vehicle is parked based on time alone they must allow a consideration period of appropriate duration". Annex B of the Code of Practice specifies that in a car park for which a tariff is due (pay and display), this consideration period must be a minimum of 5 minutes. As per your own ANPR evidence, the vehicle was on site for 2 minutes 13 seconds, less than half of the minimum consideration period. As such, the charge must be cancelled.
Schedule 7 of the IPC's Code of Practice 13.1 states, “The parking operator must allow a consideration period of appropriate duration, subject to the requirements set out in Schedule 7.” The code of practice has clearly been disregarded in this case.
Schedule 7, 13.1.3 “The consideration period ends at the point where there is evidence that the driver has, by parking, accepted the terms, conditions and restrictions applying (whether or not they have chosen to read them) which may be evidenced by the driver parking the vehicle and leaving the premises, paying the applicable parking tariff, or turning off the ignition of the vehicle and remaining stationary for more than 5 minute.”
This protocol has also been unashamedly overlooked, which is a worrying development.

I look forward to your confirmation that the charge has been cancelled.



If you're going to bother with the IAS then at least go in with all guns blazing.

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IAS Appeal: Parking Charge Notice [Reference Number]

To the IAS Assessor,

I am writing to appeal the parking charge notice issued by I Park Services Ltd, relating to vehicle registration [VRM]. This notice is entirely baseless due to the following reasons:

1. The vehicle was never parked, and no contract was formed.

According to the operator’s own ANPR evidence, the vehicle was on-site for a total of 2 minutes and 13 seconds. At no point was the vehicle parked, and no pay-and-display ticket was required, as no parking occurred. The driver briefly entered the site, sought a parking space, and then exited upon realising that none were available. The lack of parking means that no contract was formed, and therefore no parking charge can arise.

2. Breach of the required consideration period.

Section 13.1 of the IPC's Code of Practice mandates that a parking operator must allow a consideration period of appropriate duration, subject to the requirements set out in Schedule 7. This consideration period allows drivers a reasonable time to decide whether to accept the terms and conditions by parking or to leave the site. Schedule 7, Table B.1 which lists the minimum consideration and grace periods for a Pay and Display (up-front tariff) car park on controlled land where public parking is invited as a minimum of 5 minutes.

The vehicle in question was on-site for just 2 minutes and 13 seconds—far less than the mandated consideration period.

By issuing this charge without observing the minimum consideration period, I Park Services Ltd has violated the IPC’s Code of Practice, and the parking charge is unenforceable as no contract was established.

3. The operator unlawfully obtained DVLA data, breaching the KADOE contract and GDPR.

In order to access keeper data from the DVLA, parking operators must strictly adhere to the terms of the KADOE (Keeper of a Vehicle at the Date of an Event) contract. One of the core requirements of the KADOE contract is that operators must fully comply with the relevant Approved Operator Scheme’s Code of Practice, in this case, the IPC Code of Practice.

By failing to provide the required consideration period of at least 5 minutes, I Park Services Ltd has violated the IPC Code of Practice. This breach of the Code invalidates the legitimacy of the parking charge notice issued and, more crucially, also invalidates the basis upon which I Park Services Ltd requested and accessed my personal data from the DVLA.

Why the KADOE contract was breached:

Non-compliance with the Code of Practice: The KADOE contract requires operators to comply with their AOS (Approved Operator Scheme) Code of Practice, in this case, the IPC. By breaching Section 13.1 of the IPC Code (consideration period requirements), the operator was not entitled to request my data from the DVLA.

Improper justification for data access: The operator can only lawfully access keeper data if it has a valid and enforceable reason to pursue a parking charge. Since no parking occurred, no contract was formed, and no charge is enforceable, the request for my data was unjustified.

Unlawful request and GDPR breach:

As a result of breaching the KADOE contract, the operator’s request for my personal data was unlawful under both the KADOE contract and data protection laws, including the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Under GDPR, personal data must only be processed (in this case, accessed and used) where there is a legitimate and lawful basis. I Park Services Ltd accessed my data without a lawful basis, as their justification (the parking charge) was invalid from the outset. This constitutes a clear breach of GDPR, particularly:

Article 5(1)(a) – Lawfulness, fairness, and transparency: The operator failed to process my data lawfully, as the reason for accessing my data was based on a non-existent or unenforceable contract.

Article 6(1)(f) – Legitimate interests: The operator cannot claim legitimate interest in processing my personal data when they have breached the IPC Code of Practice and failed to comply with the KADOE contract.

By unlawfully obtaining and processing my data, the operator has misused my personal information and violated my data protection rights under GDPR. This misuse of data has caused significant distress and anxiety, as the operator continues to pursue an illegitimate parking charge based on data that was unlawfully acquired.

4. No evidence of landowner authority to issue PCNs.

In order for I Park Services Ltd to issue parking charge notices (PCNs) in their own name and pursue alleged contraventions, they are required to have proper legal authority from the landowner to manage parking on the site.

I Park Services Ltd has not provided any evidence of a valid contract between themselves and the landowner, which would allow them to operate on the site and issue PCNs. In accordance with the IPC Code of Practice, this evidence must be provided to demonstrate that they have the right to form contracts with drivers and enforce parking charges in their own name.

Without this landowner authority, I Park Services Ltd has no standing to issue PCNs, and the charge must be cancelled. I expect the operator to provide unredacted proof of their landowner authority or to cancel this charge immediately.

5. Breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015.

Imposing a charge for an alleged parking breach where no parking occurred constitutes an unfair term under the Consumer Rights Act 2015, Part 2, Section 62. The operator’s actions have created a significant imbalance to my detriment as a consumer by imposing an unreasonable charge for simply entering and leaving a car park without parking. This clearly violates my statutory rights under consumer protection law, and I expect the charge to be cancelled accordingly.

Conclusion

Given the facts that the driver never parked because there were no spaces available and operator’s failure to comply with the IPC Code of Practice, the unlawful request for DVLA data, the absence of any landowner authority, and the breach of the Consumer Rights Act 2015, this parking charge is wholly invalid and unenforceable. I expect the charge to be cancelled.

[Your Full Name]

Registered Keeper of Vehicle [VRM]
« Last Edit: September 21, 2024, 07:47:51 pm by b789 »
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

I think b789's suggested amendments cover the point I was about to make, but I'd leave out the points around passengers alighting. What they did is of little relevance to your points, and might be jumped on by I Park to distract from the more salient points.

The appeal I have provided above does not include any mention of the passengers as it is superfluous.

However, a complaint to the DVLA should also be sent as I Park Services have unlawfully requested the Keepers DVLA data. Here is a suggestion:

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Subject: Complaint Regarding Breach of KADOE Contract and Unlawful Access of Keeper’s Data

Dear Sir/Madam,

I am writing to file a formal complaint regarding a serious breach of the KADOE contract by I Park Services Ltd, who unlawfully requested and accessed my personal data from the DVLA. I am the registered keeper of vehicle registration [VRM], and I believe the operator’s actions in this case have violated the terms of the KADOE contract and breached my rights under the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR).

Attached to this complaint is a copy of the Notice to Keeper (NtK), which shows that the vehicle was at the location for only 2 minutes and 13 seconds while the driver searched for an available parking space. As there were no spaces available, the driver left without parking. Despite this, I Park Services Ltd issued the NtK on the grounds that no Pay & Display permit was purchased.

This is a direct breach of the IPC Code of Practice (Version 7, Section 13 and Schedule 7), which clearly mandates that Pay & Display car parks must provide a minimum consideration period of 5 minutes for drivers to decide whether to park and accept the terms and conditions. The operator has failed to observe this mandatory consideration period, which invalidates the issuance of the parking charge.

The IPC Code of Practice is a core requirement of the KADOE contract, and I Park Services Ltd’s failure to comply with it means their request for my data from the DVLA was unlawful. Without compliance with the Code of Practice, there was no lawful basis for them to access my personal data, constituting a breach of GDPR as well.

Given these clear violations, I am requesting the following from the DVLA:

1. What sanctions will be imposed on I Park Services Ltd for breaching the KADOE contract and unlawfully accessing my data?
2. What steps will the DVLA take to ensure that such breaches are properly addressed and that operators acting unlawfully are held accountable?
3. How will the DVLA ensure that personal data is protected from future unlawful access by parking operators?

I must stress that a mere brush-off will not be acceptable in this instance, particularly given the potential conflict of interest, as it is well known that the DVLA receives substantial revenue from parking operators like I Park Services Ltd and other “cowboys and scammers”, as referenced in Parliament (Hansard). This financial relationship should not hinder the enforcement of rules designed to protect motorists’ privacy and rights.

I look forward to your detailed response outlining the actions the DVLA will take in this case and how such breaches are being dealt with moving forward.

Yours faithfully,


[Your Full Name]

Registered Keeper of Vehicle [VRM]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

The support and guidance is gratefully received. Being able to confront these rogue companies with your expert knowledge is priceless.
Intimidating innocent people to obtain their hard earned money should have no place in our communities. I accept that people blatantly violating rules should have consequences but the tactics used by these private parking companies has been a real eye opening (negative) experience for me.

It's a perennial problem - landowners (perhaps not unreasonably) want some sort of deterrent against misuse of their land. The issue is the companies they then hire want to make as much money as possible, and are happy to seek it from anyone and everyone they can.

I wouldn't hold out much hope for your IAS appeal - it's of course a very valid one, but the IAS are a bit rubbish, so don't get your hopes up! If nothing else, it'll show to I Park that you're not a pushover.

The support and guidance is gratefully received. Being able to confront these rogue companies with your expert knowledge is priceless.
Intimidating innocent people to obtain their hard earned money should have no place in our communities. I accept that people blatantly violating rules should have consequences but the tactics used by these private parking companies has been a real eye opening (negative) experience for me.

For a little bit of background, have read of this:

The Big Problem
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Good afternoon,

An update on this one. I submitted the appeal (thanks again for the support). The operator has since submitted their response - https://imgur.com/a/OAO8gy6

Clearly their focus is exclusively based (tenuously?) on the fact that two passengers alighted the car. I am not denying this fact. Two passengers chose to leave the car whilst the other three occupants waited and explored for a space. Not all people enjoy the experience of looking and waiting for a parking space:) The CCTV images show it was a busy car park with no available spaces in view. You mentioned previously that these details were irrelevant. Should i try explaining in my 'Response to Operator?'

Annoyingly I Park Services also chose to send me a 'Reminder Notice - Please do not ignore,' dated 30/9/24 demanding £100. They state i missed the appeal date. I made the appeal on 25/09/2024 (14:49:19). Should it be flagged that they have not followed the correct processes?

As ever, any support appreciated.