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Hi
So I received a £60 bill, Euro car parks send these bills if cars are there for more than 2 hours evidently.
Anyway, I was away working at the time of the alleged parking event, so I wrote to say that I was away and definitely not driving.
Now I have Debt Recovery Plus harassing me.
Can I just ignore them? If they take me to court it must fail as I was 200 miles away.
Any help would be great.
Many thanks.

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Please upload photos of the notice you have received. Show us both pages, removing personal info but leaving on all dates and times.

If they have complied with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 (there's a link to it in my signature at the bottom of this post) then they can hold you liable as the keeper of the vehicle (if you are the keeper?), even if you weren't driving.

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Will upload what I have, I think the original letter has gone missing 🙄

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Letter they sent to chase

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Front of the chase letter

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I told them I was away

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They ignored my point and chased again, that letter is missing too as I think I kept them together!
I replied as attached

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And again they just ignored the points I made

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This was the chase up letter they sent

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And the latest letter from the debt collector

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Just to confirm, are you the registered keeper of the vehicle?

So from what you have posted it seems like the following is a rough summary of what has happened so far:
  • Euro Car Parks issued a charge
  • You appealed as the registered keeper, on the basis that you were not driving
  • Euro Car Parks rejected this appeal, claiming they have complied with Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act (PoFA), and are therefore able to recover the charge from you as the keeper
  • You chose not to appeal to POPLA (is this correct?)
  • Instead you engaged in further correspondence with Euro Car Parks, reiterating your initial position

As I stated in my previous reply, the fact that you were not driving is only a defence if Euro Car Parks have not complied with PoFA. They claim that they have - we cannot ascertain whether or not they have without a copy of the initial notice, which you do not seem to have. It might be wise to submit a Subject Access Request to the Data Protection Officer at Euro Car Parks, to get a copy of this.

Another option is to provide the name and address of whoever was driving, if you know who it was, and Euro Car Parks should then pursue them instead.

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You have understood it all correctly, I didn’t appeal, I didn’t realise that they could pursue me even though I wasn’t driving.
Do you know enough about them to know if it is likely that they have complied?
I feel that I will just ignore it, if it goes to court I will go in person and restate that I wasn’t driving and take my chances.
If I ask some questions and find out who was driving, would they have to revert back to the £60 fine?
Wotufink?
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if it goes to court I will go in person and restate that I wasn’t driving and take my chances.
Wotufink?
As I have said, the fact that you were not driving is not a defence if they have complied with PoFA. I think Euro Car Park ones are usually at least mostly compliant - but yours might not be, who knows? Rather than speculating you could submit a Subject Access Request to get a copy.

Euro Car Parks aren't the most litigious of the parking firms, but we have seen a couple of claims recently, and they do have up to 6 years to take action.

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OK, many thanks, most helpful

So to get a copy, I wrote to the data officer there, ask for a copy of the original notice?

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So to get a copy, I wrote to the data officer there, ask for a copy of the original notice?
Yes, but make sure you do so in the form of a Subject Access Request. It might be wise to attach something to prove your identity, such as a redacted copy of the vehicle's V5C.