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Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« on: November 01, 2024, 12:12:59 pm »
Date of occurrence:
26/02/22
Date of PCN:
03/03/22
Date of CNBC:
29/10/24

Summary:
Received a CNBC claim form for not paying for a parking ticket. Require advice on next steps.

Details:
We went swimming at the local college during a weekday. They normally tell you to type in your number plate at the reception to register for free parking. However, this particular time they didn’t.

After I got the PCN fine via post, I asked the reception lady why they hadn’t asked us to register the VPN like they normally do. They said it’s because the car park is only for permit holders 9-5pm on weekdays.

I was, annoyed as this process is poorly setup for human error, especially if you’re always using the facility for free on the weekend. They said they couldn’t do anything about it.

Since then, all correspondence have been ignored as they’re asking for an extortionate amount.


CNBC claim form:
https://imgur.com/a/8TqlIGN

PCN:
https://imgur.com/a/DXLDNC4

Parking sign:
https://imgur.com/a/ncs4dzE

My thoughts:
From reading previous threads, I think I need to complete an AoS, and then draft a defence statement? I’m not sure which defence argument to use.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2024, 02:39:30 pm by Brfc_93 »

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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2024, 02:37:28 pm »
Easy one to sort. With an issue date of 29th October, you have until 17th November to file your Acknowledgement of Service.

Follow the instructions in this PDF to submit the AoS:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

There is nothing to be gained by delaying the AoS. Once the AoS has been submitted, you then have until 4pm on Monday 2nd December to file a defence.

Let us know when you've filed the AoS and we'll provide a defence and draft order you can send.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2024, 05:09:52 pm by b789 »
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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2024, 03:29:17 pm »
@b789 thanks mate, I have now submitted the AoS. (I think it’s now a wait for their reply)

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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2024, 03:51:58 pm »
You won't get a "reply" to the AoS. You now have until 4pm on Monday 2nd December to file a defence. That's over 4 weeks away.

Remind me here in a few days to put yours together for you. I need a weekend off!
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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2024, 04:06:57 pm »
Much appreciated.

Enjoy your weekend off!

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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2024, 03:02:17 pm »
Hi @b789, did you have any luck putting together the defence?

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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2024, 05:13:00 pm »
Use the following for your defence and attach the draft order that is linked below and then attach both as pdf files to an email addressed to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure the claim number is in the email subject field. In the body of the email put "Please find attached the defence and a draft order in the matter of [clamant name] v [your name] Claim no.: [claim number]".

You only need to edit the defence with the claimant name (as it is on the claim form), your full name, the claim number and then sign it by typing your full name for the signature and dating it.

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

[Claimant's Full Name]


Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE


1. The Defendant denies any liability for this claim.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not clearly set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state exactly how the claim for statutory interest is calculated;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC states that the Claimant is suing the defendant as the driver or the keeper. The claimant obviously knows whether the defendant is being sued as the driver or the keeper and should not be permitted to plead alternative causes of action.

4. The Defendant has attached to this defence a copy of an order made at another court which the allocating judge ought to make at this stage so that the Defendant can then know and understand the case which he/she/it faces and can then respond properly to the claim.

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft order for the defence
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Re: Euro car park (DCB) - no parking ticket - Blackburn College
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2024, 03:33:05 pm »
Finally got round to sending this off today. An automated message was forwarded saying they’ll respond within 10 days. I’ll keep this thread updated.