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DCBL - CP Plus Ltd. Arbroath Abbeygate Centre.
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My partner has received a letter from DCBL to collect £170 on behalf of CP Plus Ltd / GroupNexus for failing to pay a parking charge.
The carpark is free up to 2 hours but it'd appear stayed after the carpark 'closed' - there are no gates to prevent entry/exit. Parked for 1hrs, 46mins.

Not responded to any letters from CP Plus which I expect is why its been passed to DCBL.


Where do we stand with this and what to do next?
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Scotland?  Ignore it and they will eventually give up - no keeper liability.
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Quote from: RichardW on April 16, 2025, 04:01:51 pm
Scotland?  Ignore it and they will eventually give up - no keeper liability.

Yes, Scotland. I did not know that.
So they can't take the driver to court or whatever?

Both letter refer to a court case: https://supremecourt.uk/cases/uksc-2013-0280
Does that ruling only apply to the rest of the UK?
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Quote from: Mylo on April 16, 2025, 04:05:46 pm
So they can't take the driver to court or whatever?
They don't know who the driver is. And there currently isn't keeper liability in Scotland.
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Quote from: DWMB2 on April 16, 2025, 04:10:51 pm
Quote from: Mylo on April 16, 2025, 04:05:46 pm
So they can't take the driver to court or whatever?
They don't know who the driver is. And there currently isn't keeper liability in Scotland.

Ok, good to know. The letters are address correctly - must have got the keeper details from DVLA.
What's next, just ignore letters from DCBL and Group nexus i expect?

But if something comes from a court; report back here?
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DO a search for "Scotland" on the forums to get an understanding of why you do not blab the drivers details.
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Quote from: b789 on April 16, 2025, 06:27:37 pm
DO a search for "Scotland" on the forums to get an understanding of why you do not blab the drivers details.


I did just that, thanks.

I also come across something on Advice Scotland:

Were you driving the Vehicle?

If you are the Registered Keeper of a car but were not driving it at the time the fine was charged, you can argue that you are not liable for the fine.

To do this, you would need to notify the Company, once you receive the notice.



We never replied to any letter so I wonder how this will go given we can't say the keeper wasn't driving at this point.
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You will get a series of increasingly shrill letters from DCBL, but they will give up. They don't know who the driver is, and can't take action against the reg keeper. Don't tell 'em, Pike!
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You don't have to say the Keeper wasn't driving the car!!! You, the Keeper, are under no legal obligation to identify the driver to an unregulated private firm, irrespective of whether it was the Keeper or anyone else. Get that into your head first of all!

You simply refer to the driver in the third person at all times and in any communications. No "I did this or that". Only "the driver did this or that"!!!!

Understood?
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Quote from: b789 on April 16, 2025, 06:57:03 pm
You don't have to say the Keeper wasn't driving the car!!! You, the Keeper, are under no legal obligation to identify the driver to an unregulated private firm, irrespective of whether it was the Keeper or anyone else. Get that into your head first of all!

You simply refer to the driver in the third person at all times and in any communications. No "I did this or that". Only "the driver did this or that"!!!!

Understood?

Gotcha. Keep it anonymous.

At this point we've made no contact to Nexus or DCBL.
Post above suggests keep ignoring and hope they drop it.

Got a week until DCBL send their next letter so I'll keep collecting.



Just to be clear, don't make contact. Correct?
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I am not sure which bit of "never, ever communicate with a debt collector" was not understood, but yes, do not respond to DCBL. You can safely shred their letters and use the result as hamster bedding.

Ignore everything. They will eventually give up.
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