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DCB Legal letter of claim
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I have recently received this letter of claim plus an email with attached PCN notice which I cannot remember ( but is possible ) because it is from April 2022 on my previous car.
Can you please advice on how I respond to this.
PCN ref A64439

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I haven't had a reply to this.
Am I doing this correctly ?

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Any help appreciated
Thanks

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You posted less than 24 hours ago, be patient. If everyone bumped their thread every 2 hours this forum would be unmanageable.

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Please post an image of the Notice to Keeper (NtK) associated with this claim. Show both sides of the NtK and do not redact any dates or times from it.

Reply to the Letter of Claim (LoC) with the following:

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Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a firm of supposed solicitors, one would expect you to be capable of crafting a letter that aligns with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions do not exist for decoration—they exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You might wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), stipulate that prior to proceedings, parties should have exchanged sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 helpfully clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter mentions a “contract”, yet fails to provide one. This would appear to undermine the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It’s difficult to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue when your side declines to furnish the very document it purports to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that confirms any PoFA 2012 liability
2. A copy of the contract (or contracts) you allege exists between your client and the driver, in the form of an actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date, not a generic stock image
3. The exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract(s) which is (are) relied upon that you allege to have been breached
4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner, establishing authority to enforce
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” fee includes VAT

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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As requested NTK - all 3 pages
Thank you

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Sent off reply as advised by email
Should I put a hard copy in the post as well ?

Kiran

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Why on earth would you want to send a hard copy by snail mail? Email is instant and you have notice of delivery and proof of having sent it. It doesn't cost you postage, you don't have to waste paper and you don't have to schlep out and find a post box.

In short, don't ever use snail mail unless there is absolutely no other option.

That NtK does not even state a cause of action on it. It's a joke. It is an invoice that says, you owe us money without giving a cause.

When they issue the claim, come back and we will give you the instructions on how to acknowledge it and a defence to sue. If you follow the advice, you will not be paying a penny to anyone for this. I can say with greater than 99% certainty that this will either be struck out or discontinued.

Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thank you very much for such a positive reply. I feel invigorated.
Will inform you of any replies from them.

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I have received a letter from HM Courts & Tribunal Service for a response to the claim ( gone upto £ 219.28 ) Please advice

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Please show us.

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My apologies but I simply do not know how to send the court documents electronically to you. Can you advice ?
I have a PC and a smart phone but no scanner.

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Take a photo with your phone, and use a site like Imgur to upload a photo of the same.

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Thank you for trying to help me but I cannot download Imgur to upload my photos. I am not very good at tech. I think I am resigned to paying the fine because I do not want a CCJ.

What else can I do ?

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Thank you for your reply but I simply do not know how to download Imgur and then download the photos. I think I am resigned to paying the fine because this is taking a toll on my mental health. I am frightened of getting a CCJ.