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Hi all

I parked in a car park a year ago and at the time had 2 cars, i paid on ringo but used the wrong car on the app.

I got a ticket but have ignored it for a year as I figured they would go away like the others but got this letter the other week which makes me think they are about to actually go to court, by the way the car park has gone now.

I thought about their response link on their website showing my receipt for parking and playing dumb that I clicked on the wrong car but then I thought I should ask you guys first before doing anything.

Any help greatfully appreciated :)

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Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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Easily dealt with and if you follow the advice given here, you will not be paying a penny to ECP. For now, all you have to do is respond to the Letter of Claim (LoC) by email to info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC yourself with the following:

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Dear Sirs,

Your Letter Before Claim contains insufficient detail of the claim and fails to provide copies of evidence your client places reliance upon and thus is in complete contravention of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims.

As a firm of supposed solicitors, one would expect you to be capable of crafting a letter that aligns with paragraphs 3.1(a)–(d), 5.1 and 5.2 of the Protocol, and paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. These provisions do not exist for decoration—they exist to facilitate informed discussion and proportionate resolution. You might wish to reacquaint yourselves with them.

The Civil Procedure Rules 1998, Pre-Action Conduct and Protocols (Part 3), stipulate that prior to proceedings, parties should have exchanged sufficient information to understand each other’s position. Part 6 helpfully clarifies that this includes disclosure of key documents relevant to the issues in dispute.

Your template letter mentions a “contract”, yet fails to provide one. This would appear to undermine the only foundation upon which your client’s claim allegedly rests. It’s difficult to engage in meaningful pre-litigation dialogue when your side declines to furnish the very document it purports to enforce.

I confirm that, once I am in receipt of a Letter Before Claim that complies with the requirements of para 3.1 (a) of the Pre-Action Protocol, I shall then seek advice and submit a formal response within 30 days, as required by the Protocol. Thus, I require your client to comply with its obligations by sending me the following information/documents:

1. A copy of the original Notice to Keeper (NtK) that confirms any PoFA 2012 liability
2. A copy of the contract (or contracts) you allege exists between your client and the driver, in the form of an actual photograph of the sign you contend was at the location on the material date, not a generic stock image
3. The exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract(s) which is (are) relied upon that you allege to have been breached
4. The written agreement between your client and the landowner, establishing authority to enforce
5. A breakdown of the charges claimed, identifying whether the principal sum is claimed as consideration or damages, and whether the £70 “debt recovery” fee includes VAT

I am clearly entitled to this information under paragraphs 6(a) and 6(c) of the Practice Direction. I also need it in order to comply with my own obligations under paragraph 6(b).

If your client does not provide me with this information then I put you on notice that I will be relying on the cases of Webb Resolutions Ltd v Waller Needham & Green [2012] EWHC 3529 (Ch), Daejan Investments Limited v The Park West Club Limited (Part 20) Buxton Associates [2003] EWHC 2872, Charles Church Developments Ltd v Stent Foundations Limited & Peter Dann Limited [2007] EWHC 855 in asking the court to impose sanctions on your client and to order a stay of the proceedings, pursuant to paragraphs 13, 15(b) and (c) and 16 of the Practice Direction, as referred to in paragraph 7.2 of the Protocol.

Until your client has complied with its obligations and provided this information, I am unable to respond properly to the alleged claim and to consider my position in relation to it, and it is entirely premature (and a waste of costs and court time) for your client to issue proceedings. Should your client do so, then I will seek an immediate stay pursuant to paragraph 15(b) of the Practice Direction and an order that this information is provided.

Yours faithfully,

[Your name]

Eventually, a claim is going to be issued. However, it is easily defended with our advice and there is the 99.9% likelihood that it will be struck out or discontinued before they have to pay the £27 trial fee. You can do a search of the forum for other DCB Legal issued claims. Their M.O. is to hope that you are low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree and will pay up out of ignorance and fear.

Keep us informed with progress and we will advise further when the claim is issued.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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Awesome, thanks so much, and I sure will.
« Last Edit: August 18, 2025, 02:39:30 pm by bwolf9999 »

Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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Hi B789

I had this email reply, what would you advise next ? ...


Dear Mr ,

 

Further to your email dated 18th August 2025.

 

As the content of the Landowner Agreement is commercially sensitive, a (redacted) copy of the same will only be released at the direction of the Court. This is usually, but not limited to, 14 days prior to the hearing. 

Please see attached evidence pack for your records.

 

In accordance with our Letter Before Claim, payment is required on or before the 3rd September 2025 to avoid further action.

Please make payment to the bank account details below quoting 104273.42439

 

 

Amount Due: £170.00

 

Failure to make payment will result in the issue of legal proceedings without further recourse to you. Should it become necessary to issue legal proceedings, we recommend you follow the steps on the claim form upon receipt of the same.

Kind regards

Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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Respond with this:

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Dear Sirs,

Re: Your reference 104273.42439

I refer to your recent response.

Your refusal to provide the landowner contract until 14 days before a hearing is a clear breach of the Pre-Action Protocol for Debt Claims and the Practice Direction on Pre-Action Conduct. The contract is a key document which must be disclosed now, not deferred until litigation.

By deliberately withholding this information, you are frustrating the Protocol’s stated purpose of enabling parties to understand each other’s position and avoid unnecessary proceedings. Issuing a claim without first complying will be premature and unreasonable.

For the avoidance of doubt, until you provide a compliant Letter Before Claim with the requested documents, the 30-day period to respond has not begun. Any claim issued beforehand will be met with an application for a stay, a request for costs sanctions, and a formal complaint to the Solicitors Regulation Authority regarding your conduct.

I invite you to reconsider your position.

Yours faithfully,

[Your Name]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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Thank you very much, do you think I will end up having to pay this ?

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How have you come to that conclusion based on the thread so far?

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I dont know I am just nervous.

Also, I have made a massive mistake.

I had 2 private tickets, the one in this thread, and another with Gladstones, in my work i do work for estate agents and have to visit lots of properties, they never have permits and so much of london now is private parking, I parked at this block of flats 2 years ago for 15 minutes and ignored all their letters.
 
They wrote to me around the same time as DCB and I used B789 template to reply to them too.

I am getting a bit muddled as a bit stressed with this now, the reply I got via email that I posted above was from Gladstones re this separate ticket, so I will reply to them as B789 suggests.


However DCB (what this post was about )didnt ever reply to my email and now today I have had a letter from the county court , it says its a a claim form and now i am very concerned, what would be the best next step ?

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Post what you’ve received so we can see it, but if you get un-muddled and follow the advice you’ll get here you won’t pay a penny.

Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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Ok thanks, will post later, sorry bit stressful

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Hi all

Here is what I recieved.

FYI they didnt ever reply to my email.

From what I am reading I have 14 days to respond, help gratefully appreciated

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I dont seem to have the ability to attach a file now , I could before, can anyone help ?

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We advise against uploading directly as there is very limited space - there is advice on using Imgur here: READ THIS FIRST - Private Parking Charges Forum guide

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Hopefully this has worked ?


https://imgur.com/a/FVOl4oq

Re: DCB LEGAL LETTER OF CLAIM
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With an issue date of 28th August you have until 4pm on Tuesday 16th September to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 30th September to submit your defence.

You only need to submit an AoS if you need extra time to prepare your defence. If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

MCOL CPR16.4 only defence

Until very recently, we never advised using the MCOL to submit a defence. However, due to recent systemic failures within the CNBC, we feel that it is safer to now submit a short defence using MCOL as it is instantly submitted and entered into the "system". Whilst it will deny the use of some formatting or inclusion of transcripts etc. these can always be included with the Witness Statement (WS) later, if it ever progresses that far.

You will need to copy and paste it into the defence text box on MCOL. It has been checked to make sure that it will fit into the 122 lines limit.

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1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4.

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16.7.3(1);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts);

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant submits that courts have previously struck out similar claims of their own initiative for failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, particularly where the Particulars of Claim failed to specify the contractual terms relied upon or explain the alleged breach with sufficient clarity.

5. In comparable cases involving modest sums, judges have found that requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, strike-out was deemed appropriate. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim due to the Claimant’s failure to adequately comply with CPR 16.4, rather than permitting an amendment. The Defendant proposes that the following Order be made:

Draft Order:

Of the Court's own initiative and upon reading the particulars of claim and the defence.

AND the court being of the view that the particulars of claim do not adequately comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) because: (a) they do not set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract which is (or are) relied on; and (b) they do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts that the defendant was in breach of contract.

AND the claimant could have complied with CPR 16.4(1)(a) had it served separate detailed particulars of claim, as it could have done pursuant to CPR PD 7C.5.2(2), but chose not to do so.

AND upon the claim being for a very modest sum such that the court considers it disproportionate and not in accordance with the overriding objective to allot to this case any further share of the court's resources by ordering further particulars of claim and a further defence, each followed by further referrals to the judge for case management.

ORDER:

1. The claim is struck out.

2. Permission to either party to apply to set aside, vary or stay this order by application on notice, which must be filed at this Court not more than 5 days after service of this order, failing which no such application may be made.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain