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So to give a bit of background info, back in August 2024 I parked at a car park owned by group nexus so I could go to the gym, at the time i was quite new to this gym and did not know I had to put in my license plate to avoid getting a fine. I ended up parking there for just over 3 hours (long session I know) and then went about as normal. I received a letter a few weeks later stating I had to pay a fine of £70, I dismissed these letters as I was told these private parking companies send you a few letters to scare you and then they stop, I even received some DCBL letters which I again ignored thinking it would go away after some time. Today I received some rather scary looking documents from HM courts and tribunal services, which included an N9A, N9B, admission form and a claim form. I understand it is my fault for ignoring the letters and not appealing in the first instance, but I don’t particularly fancy paying the fine, so I was what should I do?

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Start by reading the 'READ THIS FIRST' thread, and adjusting your post accordingly: https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/

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Show us the N1SDT Claim Form. Redact only your personal details, the claim number and the MCOL password. Leave all dates and times visible. We need to see the Particulars of Claim (PoC) to be able to advise on the defence.

Which bottom-dwelling firm of bulk litigators is acting for GroupNexus (CP Plus)?
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Which bottom-dwelling firm of bulk litigators is acting for GroupNexus (CP Plus)? - not sure about this

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DCB Legal

Well known here

They will discontinue the case but not before you’ve submitted a defence, wait for more help on this.

Their tactics are to intimidate with threats of court, warnings about ‘CCJs’, but when it comes to paying the court fee and sending someone to court they pull out. They will also offer you increasingly desperate offers to ‘settle’.

But you still need to modify your original post as advised.
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Yes, amend your first post to remove all reference to who was driving.

Do you have the Notice to Keeper?

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I am unable to modify my original post, also I do not have the notice

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With an issue date of 13th March, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 1st April to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 15th April to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order that goes with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send all the documents as a single PDF attachment (in the order of 'defence', 'draft order' and then the 2 'transcripts') in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of CP Plus Ltd t/a GroupNexus v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

CP Plus Ltd t/a GroupNexus

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant cites the cases of CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30], which are persuasive appellate decisions. In these cases, claims were struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). Transcripts of these decisions are attached to this Defence.

5. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.(1)(a). The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Failed to explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

6. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence

CEL v Chan Transcript

CPMS v Akande Transcript

If you want an editable MS Word file with everything in a single document which you can then save/export as a single PDF file when ready to send, use this:

MS Word .docx file for defence [CPR 16.4(1)(a)]
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Thanks a bunch, so I don’t need to send the letter back through post, and can just send the email?

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Nowhere have you been advised on sending anything by snail mail. What do you mean by:

Thanks a bunch, so I don’t need to send the letter back through post, and can just send the email?

What “letter”? Please carefully follow the advice. You are not sending any “letter” back to them. Do not use any of the forms included with the N1SDT Claim Form.

All you need to do is either submit an AoS or your defence which is provided above, by the deadlines I gave you earlier.

Please carefully read the advice provided in my earlier post. There is nothing that needs overthinking.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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You posted a now deleted thread earlier saying that your claim was set aside.

Please don't start a new thread if it relates to an existing case. In this thread, you were advised to send the defence and that was the last we heard from you.

Now you spring on us that the claim was set aside without having provided any detail whatsoever about what happened after submitting your defence.

So, before you get any further advice, please fill in all the blanks about what happened after submitting your defence that we provided.

Was the claim actually transferred to your local county court? If so, which one? Was there a hearing or was the claim set aside by the case management judge? Show us any court orders you received. Don't try and simply tell us what happened but show ud all the correspondence.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Yes the claim was transferred to my local county court, Northampton county court to be specific, it was set aside by a judge after they had received my defence, which is the one you created for me earlier in the thread.

A few weeks later DCB Legal sent me a letter saying they want to proceed with the claim and that I would be sent a questionnaire

This questionnaire came last week and I’ve got until the 6th of June to fill it out and submit

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Last attachment since the limit is 4

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If you want help, then repost everything with ALL dates visible so that we can get a grip of the timeline here. You have redacted too much. Yes, redact your personal information but you have left your name unredacted in one of the documents!!!!!!

Please give us a timeline of what happed on what date.

CCJ was set aside on what date? The claimant then carried on with the original claim on what date?

Regarding the DQ, read this:

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Having received your own N180 (make sure it is not simply a copy of the claimants N180), do not use the paper form. Ignore all the other forms that came with it. you can discard those. Download your own here and fill it in on your computer. You sign it by simply typing your full name in the signature box.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/673341e779e9143625613543/N180_1124.pdf

Here are the answers to some of the less obvious questions:

• The name of the court is "Civil National Business Centre".

• To be completed by "Your full name" and you are the "Defendant".

• C1: "YES"

• D1: "NO". Reason: "I wish to question the Claimant about their evidence at a hearing in person and to expose omissions and any misleading or incorrect evidence or assertions.
Given the Claimant is a firm who complete cut & paste parking case paperwork for a living, having this case heard solely on papers would appear to put the Claimant at an unfair advantage, especially as they would no doubt prefer the Defendant not to have the opportunity to expose the issues in the Claimants template submissions or speak as the only true witness to events in question
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• F1: Whichever is your nearest county court. Use this to find it: https://www.find-court-tribunal.service.gov.uk/search-option

• F3: "1".

• Sign the form by simply typing your full name for the signature.

When you have completed the form, attach it to a single email addressed to both dq.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and info@dcblegal.co.uk and CC in yourself. Make sure that the claim number is in the subject field of the email.
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Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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The set aside was made at the CNBC, before the case was transferred to Northampton. That is probably because the CNBC screwed up something and the claimant applied for a default CCJ. From what I can gather, you know nothing about this or did you receive an order about the default CCJ?

The original claim is deficient and unless the claimant was ordered to submit further PoC, it is still deficient, does not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a) and your original defence still stands. The court should strike it out but if they don't, DCB Legal will discontinue anyway.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain