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I am hoping you kind folk can help with this.  I am the registered keeper and owner of the vehicle and recieved the attached claim form.  This relates to an alleged incident on 22/1/2022 of stopping on private land.  I wasnt the driver.  over the years I have recieved various demands from different companies.  I notice that people talk about a letter before claim - i didnt recieve one. They went from a demand last year to this.  They have video evidence and its not me on the video. Can any one help draft a reply for a defence please.





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Re: Claim Form from Moorside Legal
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Can you post the original PCN?

If you don’t have it, can you get it, eg a Subject Access Request to the parking company, UKCPS?

Video is pretty meaningless, by the way, how do they know who it is?

In order to construct a defence, we need to know more than just the Particulars of Claim, which are the usual rubbish from Moorside.

If you file an Acknowledgement of Service by 3 June you have until 17 June to file your defence.
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Video is pretty meaningless, by the way, how do they know who it is?
Given the matter has now got to court, and the OP is the defendant, video could be very much meaningful if it would be evident to a judge that the person standing in front of him in the court room is not the person seen driving in the claimant's evidence.

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Yes, that’s a good point.
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hi thankls for your replies.  yes that was going to be my defence.  how can I enter into a contract with the company when I was clearly (from the video) not the driver or passenger.

I was also going to point out that this kind of thing is perverse - how can anyone enter into a no stopping contract when the person has to stop to read the sign that enters them into the contract that they can now no longer refuse because they have already stopped.

I will ask them for the pcn - do i need to ask them for anything else or should I just ask for all of it under SAR?


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Ask for all personal data they hold for you.
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yes that was going to be my defence.  how can I enter into a contract with the company when I was clearly (from the video) not the driver or passenger.
Remember that's only one part of the argument. Showing you were not the driver means they can't hold you liable as the driver. However you then also need to explain why they cannot rely on Schedule 4 of the Protection of Freedoms Act 2012 to hold you liable as the keeper of the vehicle.

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Hi

Ive got my sar back - i did make a defence when i received this as the keeper but didnt follow it up.  the last picture shows that the notice of claim was sent (17/5) after the claim (15/5)- not sure if this makes a material difference:

my defence intends to be - i was not the driver which can be seen in the stills and video, the notice does not comply with protections of freedoms 2012 and so there is not route to keeper.  (i'm not sure if it does or not).  any advice greatly appreciated.  I have acknowledged service.










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My initial observations are;

1) The NtK does not specify a 'period of parking' - Court's have held that a single timestamp is not a period of parking - therefore the NtK is not PoFA compliant. There is also other mandatory wording which is missing from the NtK.

2) If a driver pulls into a car park and immediately stops then there isn't much the parking operator can do about it since there is no contract between the driver and the parking operator at that point in time so there can be no breach of contract.

3) Under consumer regulations the consumer must be given adequate time to read and understand terms and conditions before being bound by them - this means that there can never be an 'instant contract' - the Claimant will be totally reliant on the principle of 'instant contract' in order to pursue you.


Can I ask what the video shows? And does it show how long you were stopped?

I have some other thoughts on the yellow box but I need to understand what the video shows before commenting on that.
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Hi thanks for your reply.  i'm not the driver so I wasnt stopped anywhere  :)

the video shows that the driver stopped the vehicle, the driver and passenger got out.  took something from the boot and the driver then went on their way.  this area is allegedly no stopping, its private land - so its not a car park as far as I am aware - but I wasnt there so i dont know for sure. but i agree with your points in that it makes sense to me - if the driver has to stop to and get out to read the sign that says you are not allowed to stop and if you do we are gonna send you a bill.  then they are relying on instant contract that you agreed to the charge before you read the conditions - well how is that fair.