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Back in Aug 19 the driver parked in a Sports Direct car park, that had a maximum of 2hrs stay, with two neuro-divergent children who needed several items from the store. They came back 15 past the 2hrs stay and subsequently received a fine. They didn't oay and ignored all the following letters from DCB and one from CST Law but have now received a Claim Form. What are the best next steps?

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Please read https://www.ftla.uk/private-parking-tickets/read-this-first-private-parking-charges-forum-guide/ and post information requested there for us to see. Please do not ‘redact’ any dates.

And it’s not a fine!

Plan A should be to get Sports Direct to get this cancelled. You need to talk to them first.
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For some reason we don't have earlier letters but here is what we have
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and the rest.
Is there still time to call Sports Direct given a Claims Form has been issued?

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Sports Direct can cancel this today if they are responsible for the parking, whether or not some kind of claim has been issued. Whether or not they will, at least you can ask. There’s no sense in second guessing their excuses for not doing so, and you may get a good answer from them.

Do they want your business in future?

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We'll contact them now. Beyond that, any further advice or mandatory next steps we need to take?

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If a claim form has been issued, it is too late for Sports Direct or anyone except the claimant to cancel this and they'd have issue an N279 Notice of Discontinuation (NoD) to achieve this.

Follow the advice (which I will give after reviewing al the documents you have provided) and the claim will either be struck out or discontinued.
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Thank you!

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Everything you've show us is irrelevant except the Letter of Claim (LoC) dated 20th March. Debt recovery letters can be safely ignored. Never, ever, enter into communication with a powerless debt collector. Their only ability is to try and make the low-hanging fruit on the gullible tree pay up out of ignorance and fear.

You say you've received a Claim Form... where is that? Are you referring to the LoC or an actual N1SDT Claim Form from the CNBC?
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Here's the claim form

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With an issue date of 24th April, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 13th May to submit your defence. If you submit an Acknowledgement of Service (AoS) before then, you would then have until 4pm on Tuesday 27th May to submit your defence.

If you want to submit an AoS then follow the instructions in this linked PDF:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xvqu3bask5m0zir/money-claim-online-How-to-Acknowledge.pdf?dl=0

Otherwise, here is the defence and link to the draft order and relevant transcripts that go with it. You only need to edit your name and the claim number. You sign the defence by typing your full name for the signature and date it. There is nothing to edit in the draft order.

When you're ready you send all the documents as a single PDF attachment (in the order of 'defence', 'draft order' and then the 2 'transcripts') in an email to claimresponses.cnbc@justice.gov.uk and CC in yourself. The claim number must be in the email subject field and in the body of the email just put: "Please find attached the defence and draft order in the matter of G24 Ltd v [your full name] Claim no.: [claim number]."

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IN THE COUNTY COURT
Claim No: [Claim Number]

BETWEEN:

G24 Ltd

Claimant

- and -

[Defendant's Full Name]


Defendant



DEFENCE

1. The Defendant denies the claim in its entirety. The Defendant asserts that there is no liability to the Claimant and that no debt is owed. The claim is without merit and does not adequately disclose any comprehensible cause of action.

2. There is a lack of precise detail in the Particulars of Claim (PoC) in respect of the factual and legal allegations made against the Defendant such that the PoC do not comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

3. The Defendant is unable to plead properly to the PoC because:

(a) The contract referred to is not detailed or attached to the PoC in accordance with CPR PD 16(7.5);

(b) The PoC do not state the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions of the contract (or contracts) which is/are relied on;

(c) The PoC do not adequately set out the reason (or reasons) why the claimant asserts the defendant has breached the contract (or contracts)

(d) The PoC do not state with sufficient particularity exactly where the breach occurred, the exact time when the breach occurred and how long it is alleged that the vehicle was parked before the parking charge was allegedly incurred;

(e) The PoC do not state precisely how the sum claimed is calculated, including the basis for any statutory interest, damages, or other charges;

(f) The PoC do not state what proportion of the claim is the parking charge and what proportion is damages;

(g) The PoC do not provide clarity on whether the Defendant is sued as the driver or the keeper of the vehicle, as the claimant cannot plead alternative causes of action without specificity.

4. The Defendant cites the cases of CEL v Chan 2023 [E7GM9W44] and CPMS v Akande 2024 [K0DP5J30], which are persuasive appellate decisions. In these cases, claims were struck out due to identical failures to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a). Transcripts of these decisions are attached to this Defence.

5. The Defendant attaches to this defence a copy of a draft order approved by a district judge at another court. The court struck out the claim of its own initiative after determining that the Particulars of Claim failed to comply with CPR 16.4.(1)(a). The judge noted that the claimant had failed to:

(i) Set out the exact wording of the clause (or clauses) of the terms and conditions relied upon;

(ii) Failed to explain the reasons why the defendant was allegedly in breach of contract;

(iii) Provide separate, detailed Particulars of Claim as permitted under CPR PD 7C.5.2(2).

(iv) The court further observed that, given the modest sum claimed, requiring further case management steps would be disproportionate and contrary to the overriding objective. Accordingly, the judge struck out the claim outright rather than permitting an amendment.

6. The Defendant submits that the same reasoning applies in this case and invites the court to adopt a similar approach by striking out the claim for the Claimant’s failure to comply with CPR 16.4(1)(a).

Statement of truth

I believe that the facts stated in this Defence are true. I understand that proceedings for contempt of court may be brought against anyone who makes, or causes to be made, a false statement in a document verified by a statement of truth without an honest belief in its truth.

Signed:


Date:

Draft Order for the defence

CEL v Chan Transcript

CPMS v Akande Transcript

If you want an editable MS Word file with everything in a single document which you can then save/export as a single PDF file when ready to send, use this:

MS Word .docx file for defence [CPR 16.4(1)(a)]
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Thank you, we will get right on this.

We're guessing the outcome of doing this is that they drop the claim I assume?

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In due course. You MUST respond to the Claim.
Never argue with stupid people. They will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience” - Mark Twain

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Absolutely will. But what is the hopeful outcome of doing the things you suggested?

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Greater than 99.9%
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