Hi all,
(Sorry for all the lines/ horizontal rules, it won't let me break up the paragraphs any other way)
I received a NtK from CE Ltd for the driver of the vehicle taking over 10 minutes to park at the Luton Conservative Association (the PCN is attached or scroll a little further down to see).
The driver took about 20 minutes to pay because the mobile payment app kept freezing and crashing (images attached). The driver first attempted payment by phone, but the operator couldn't register the card digits, and there was no option to enter them in the keypad. The driver then tried web payment on
https://www.paybyphone.co.uk/ but the site also kept showing an error message and so did the app, which was eventually how the driver paid (images attached). This is why it took approx 20 mins to pay. Parking was paid for 3 hours, and the driver left the car park before it was up. Also, there was no sign outside the car park specifying that only online payment was taken, and no machines were available inside, otherwise the driver wouldn't have entered.
Now I appealed as the keeper, but it was rejected (See appeal at the end of this post).
Is it worth appealing to POPLA? I frustratingly haven't been able to find any details about the landowner online. Also, to make things stranger, the Luton Conservative Association seems to have dropped off the face of the earth- their contact details on the sign are obsolete- phone invalid and website down...
**Heres the link to the drivers attempts to pay via app, website and phone, and pics of the car park:
https://imgur.com/a/9TwsI6P
Any advice would be much appreciated.
Appeal to CE Ltd:
As the keeper of the vehicle, I am appealing this fine. For the record, the driver had paid to park from 13:52 to 16:52 on 18/01/2025 at the Beech Hill Conservative Club, using the Phone and Pay App.
There is no signage to specify that there is no machine payment available prior to entering the Beech Hill Conservative Club car park. Neither does the signage outside the car park state that there is a 10-minute limit for payment. The attached images prove that the 10-minute limit is only written in small writing on the signs inside the car park, not outside it. If this were the case, the driver would not have entered the car park. In addition, the Beech Hill Conservative Club parking website is faulty and does not load, so the driver was unable to see that payment is only possible through pay by phone. This means that motorists will enter the car park unaware of this limit. 10 minutes is not a reasonable amount of time to download a faltering, glitching app and complete payment.
The British Parking Association (BPA), of which Civil Enforcement Ltd. is a member, and the International Parking Community (IPC), recently announced changes to the private parking sector's code of conduct to ensure it "protects genuine motorists who have difficulty making prompt payment on entry."
This is designed to protect drivers who experience delays in making payment in private car parks monitored by fixed camera technology (eg ANPR or CCTV). According to the BPA website, “the panel and the two parking Trade Associations remain dedicated to building trust and transparency through continuous improvements and higher standards.”
In the Beech Hill Conservative Club car park, there are three options for payment: calling the number advertised on the signage, using the website paybyphone.co.uk, or the Phone and Pay App. The driver attempted all three methods, but each one was slow and unresponsive. Despite this, the driver ultimately DID pay for parking.
Firstly, the driver called the phone number advertised on the signage. However, the automated operator did not offer the option to type out card details on the keypad for payment. Instead, it required the driver to verbally read the digits of the card number. The automated operator could not register verbal speech accurately, and there was no option to type digits into the dial pad. This is an extremely inefficient method to pay by phone. The driver attempted to recite their card details three times, to no avail. The operator then ended the call. There are screenshots attached to this appeal that prove that this phone call took place only minutes after the driver entered the car park. The phone call lasted 5 minutes and 29 seconds and not only did it refuse to accept payment, but it also used up half of the 10 minutes allotted to pay for parking. This sets drivers up to fail.
Secondly, the driver used the website, paybyphone.co.uk. This also wouldn't permit payment to be completed, as can be seen by the screenshot attached. The parking operator must update their technological systems.
Lastly, the driver downloaded the Phone and Pay App. This app is extremely flawed. It repeatedly displayed error messages at every stage. Firstly, when the driver entered the location code; secondly, when an attempt was made to enter vehicle registration details; and lastly, when the driver tried to complete payment. This can be seen in the attached screenshots. Some examples of these error messages were ‘something went wrong,’ ‘payment is not accepted at this time,’ and ‘please try again later.’ This app was prone to repeatedly malfunctioning and freezing, taking well over the allotted 10 minutes to complete payment. There was no option to backdate the payment, which would have been used if available. However, the driver ultimately did complete payment, which covered 3 hours of parking, as can be seen by the screenshots. This car park must update its parking payment technology and allow drivers to pay for parking through functioning and reliable technology. Reviews of the Phone and Pay Parking app on both the Google Play Store and The App Store attest to its poor user interface that constantly freezes and glitches when payment is attempted. This is evident in reviews averaging a score of 1.1 out of 5 stars.
The car park operators must update their signage to clarify that there is no machine payment available PRIOR to drivers entering the car park. 10 minutes is not a reasonable time period to enter a car park, find a space, park, read all the terms and conditions of parking, accept them, and then make payment. This makes it impossible to comply with the terms on offer. The 10 minute rule is an unfair contract term under the Consumer Rights Act 2015, which protects consumers from unfair terms in contracts they have not had the opportunity to negotiate.